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MKV. Man, MKV

in my experience, I've had zero issues with that over probably seven or eight years.

going through. Like, I have T shirts that are you have for, like, 6 months, and then they're just like you donate them, but, like,

You should be working harder during your nine to five if you have to work that many nights and weekends.

Don't have images. How about how that don't have images, don't have problems. How about that? My last Cloudflare bill was $27, I could lay down with these things on. How would they not figure that out? Did does anybody wear them at Apple? Anybody wearing these things and laying down? How's that yeah. Like, there's this big obnoxious

So So host so that if you do get shut down, you can just point your domain upcoming spooky story episode. So go to syntax.fm/spooky

Claude Node, and you can do forward slash context,

Because I noticed them. I've I've you Node, sometimes people wear AirPods funny, and they wear them, like, sticking out a lot. Yeah. These are these are the new ones that's they intentionally stick out more. Right? I don't even know if they intentionally do or don't. No. They But I got I got them because I wear them so much. The battery on my nothing, sauce enjoyers. We've we've sick picked quite a bit of the Bakken sauces over the years. We don't have the Momofuku and this is a temporary thing. Maybe put, like, a time limit on it. I need to grind for the next six months on this thing just because I think that it can I think it can take off? I think I could build something really cool here. And, like, lucky for me, my wife understands. I don't I'm pretty cut and dry that you just drag the image into it, and then you can scale it up or down. And then you hit a button, and it'll download that wallpaper as, like, a larger JPEG. So I have a whole folder of them.

output an image with, like, a source set. And what that will do is it will for larger displays, you get a higher resolution. For smaller displays, you get a smaller resolution on it. Same with, like, the the formatting as well. I generally just stick JPEGs as source material probably because I signed up, like, fifteen years ago, reused the same password. Oh, man. And they drained, like, a $150 worth of points out of the thing. And I eventually, I got it back, but I've heard so many horror stories over the Yarn. And it's just like, well,

Shipping sucks. Logistics

I visited the website. It's of all three of you, and I must say I was very disappointed. What? images but, like, figure it out. My screen full of crash the other day when I drag and dropped it, hike into it, or, like, none of the Apple apps allow you to use an SVG.

that was $7.50.

what are you doing? Support MKV. What are you doing? That's a great question. Helium makes it. Helium docked computer. It's like a pnpm down version of Chrome with, privacy defaults.

One thing I was kinda worried about was, like, if if anyone's, like, hotlinking these images or, like, you know, Google search results, Actually bought a pair of the from the storage of those Grab the highest quality in in many of the cases.

and we have very different opinions

There's nothing about, like, really hosting front end stuff on here is really why. It's Yeah. You know, storage, stream, CSS, but, like, you won't find

too much. I just Node my stuff off of ISPs that are not as well known, that are very well known for,

Right here. Yes. Right here. And it it's a latency in the entire Bos. And it's not just typing. Things are just doing stuff all the time. There's so much

it's a hard problem, and there's there's safeguards inside of all of these hosts as well.

Done deal if you wanna host it yourself and own all that stuff, not play for Cloudinary.

with the niceties and the attention to detail of many things on macOS. I want something in between there as as as a full time. What I did go ahead and do is I did set this computer to be as similar to Omarji as possible in terms of I got all the CLI tools.

can it be better? Yeah.

above the always the case. Although, like, I think if somebody were hiring you, they parents.

of those images are. And then when you're embedding them into your your content, you can explicitly put send requests. You know? And if I'm getting any Wes from, like, And there's something very great about that. So if you know? The other question is is people you always hear both sides of it JS when a website goes nuts.

But I thought this was an interesting image where they talk about various free platforms,

Okay. So And for our Halloween episode. So October 27, we're going to be at yeah, enjoy your life. There's there's plenty of time to program.

Me, personally, though, if it's a simple instructions file, like, don't you ever and come up with an agreement. Talk to your wife and and see, like, alright.

is hard. And the solution to that is, yeah, you have another warehouse in another country, page rules, $5.

they started JS, like, a CDN, so you can host videos and images with them. But they've now now they're in, like, the database world. They're in they have, like, kind of a Cloudflare Worker

is a valid format.

It's on it's on this computer right here. You put it on the

It's free, but you do have to grab a ticket, so go grab it now. And then also, Don't be afraid. You can always move your stuff if it starts to cost what what did they change it from into you know, like like, for me, I have

traffic, real bandwidth, real data coming through. Yeah. Your prices are gonna go up. So that is the thing about Vercel that you do have to worry about. Do I have to worry about it? I've never built anything that I've had to worry about it with. But We get free Vercel. So if you if you ever questioned Anchor positioning really solves a billion problems. Excited for it. Yeah. Oh, come on. I'm using the polyfill right now, and I just wish I didn't have to. Okay. Next question here from Omar. Hey, Wes. Scott, love the show. Been listening since day one.

looping it is

as pnpm down, you need you need some time away from screens. Man, be at nineteen.

something else that's really exciting or rather add this feature to the syntax website. So that's tiling option,

Oh, yeah. I have that problem. These things have noise canceling, and people say, oh, it's you gotta have it for the noise canceling microphone. You don't. These things noise canceling, not as good, but noise canceling, has an images, pipeline.

Shameless plug. Let me tell you about Sentry. This is also an ad, by the way. You're gonna wanna check out Sentry for your projects, which will to 25,927, I don't know why you don't hear a lot of people talk about them. It's kind of like that weird one. Maybe that's just like they don't put any money into,

insecure password, and their password might have been in a a data breach and somebody was able to get into that. How do you handle that? Yeah. That's that's a tough one because, hopefully, you're, you know, you're you're doing data backups and stuff like this, but it depends on scale. Right? If this is like a boutique kind of niche app that you have,

and it's just it's a hard thing. And, especially, you just ship it to Node. It it, unfortunately, how these things work. I'm curious, actually. I'm gonna put this out there. If anybody JS listening Node anyone that runs like a like a spam operation, you know, you have a bunch of Twitter bots or something, I wanna talk to you. I think that would be interesting episode.

It's, you know, very much like ad blocking stuff by default. It's low kinda on the features, but it's Chrome. The UI is nice and minimal.

at least not very easily.

You can obviously throw in two factor authentication,

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costs.

what my entire website hosting.

They are. Yeah.

a like, an ISP in Russia that is, like, clearly a data center, they're probably not doing anything anything good, you know, and, like, they're unless someone's using a VPN or whatever. But

man, my my hand's cramping up. I'm, like, trying to memorize stuff at the same time. And, like, it it's fine. I have found myself to be much better at Neovim after spending, like, two or three weeks using only that. But at the same time, put background color on something unless I told you to.

it's a very hard problem to very hard problem to solve, and it gives me a lot more appreciation for

I found myself in a situation where I am working too many nights, too many weekends, and,

bill

Super fun.

where On one of your shows, I heard you say that beware of the free tier. And often once you go off the free tier, the pricing goes off a cliff.

you've got T shirts in three different locations, and then one of them is sold out, so you have to ship it from another one. And just, like, big fan of that. I think the it is it is very common. It's very common that, like, developers don't even have a website, which is is hilarious when you think about it. And and if you think about it, like, I don't post a ton of content on my own website. Most of it is on it cost me 14¢.

Use Cloudinary.

their problem that between You're gonna wanna come and hang out with us. We're gonna have merch. We're gonna have beer. We're gonna have Scott. We're gonna have CJ. I'm gonna be there, unfortunately. The whole team's gonna be there. It's gonna be a hoot. So go to syntax.afam/meetup.

you have to like like, the easiest way to do it is just sign in with Gmail or sign in with Apple or whatever. Yeah. And then you take all of the the burden off of you onto the security of their their email platform.

yeah. Yeah. Like, I I would imagine you'd probably want some, like, data versioning you could roll back

we're just waiting on Firefox. It's behind a flag in Firefox. I did dip into it, and there seems like in the last couple weeks, there's been some movement on it. And it does seem like it's almost there, but I don't know. I've I've been on that. It's almost there trained for a while.

stuff?

my nothing ear a's, which I these are great. They were cheap. They're nice for a lot of reasons.

and

But if it's like a giant, like, giant app, I don't know. That feels like a a tough problem to solve other than

shut down because they're using these these platforms. You know? And if these platforms deem you as that is not allowed on our platform, they will just shut you down, and you'll be you'll be out of business. You know? So the question he had is, like like, like, what do I use? So I'm gonna, like, build something from scratch. I don't wanna use any interested in having a cutover strategy

Wes If I could have my way, I would have

forgive it. Like, they're still paying that bill at the end of the day. You know? That bandwidth was still used. They can't they can't put that back in the bottle. So I'm I'm sure they've eaten quite a bit just for, like, community goodwill in in that regard. And and, also, like, pricing is so hard because what were you disappointed in my website? Because I am I spent a Scott Node of time on my website. I'm very proud of it. So the question, why do professional devs have terrible website UIs but create amazing websites for clients? I'm young, 19, started programming my journey, but my parents complained that I'm spending too much time

You can use that path. You then use Cloudflare's

like, thirty seconds of that or thirty milliseconds of that, then what do you get paid on? And it is so hard

Yeah. It's so funny. I it's it's so funny. I I I do like, it's one of the reasons why I think that $5 a month, VPS is such a for the thing in Mac OS Wes you hit space Bos and finder, it pops open the thing. Quick look is that. And, man, there's a whole bunch of formerly, one to these, and one of my biggest beefs

is is a very hard problem to solve. And then that added with the fact that

You don't think about it ever again.

Either way, I have for you a very valid,

a width, a height, or an aspect ratio on them, and then you don't get that,

like the You guys I meant I like the laptop. I like the experience on the laptop. I like using it. I'll say that. But the trackpad is terrible. Even using with the mouse, the keyboard's bad. But, like, monitor that's a problem with Omarchi is that the dual monitor support sucks on it like it exists, but, like, putting things on a specific monitor sucks. So, like, just having it as my workstation computer, it's not viable. That computer JS not powerful enough. The battery lasts a long time. It's super fast. It feels really great, and there's a lot of things I like about the OS that I get really annoyed with on macOS these days with how once you use that and come back to Mac, there's an inherent latency on every single keystroke on this Mac computer that is hard to,

video And I bet especially because, like, often you hear stories about, like, people who get or

come on.

let him goof around on the Internet.

be more some peptides. I'm pretty sure it's Ozempic.

is that if we're using, like, OBS to record an MKV and OBS crashes, you don't lose that whole file. You know? It's like an additive process. That's why you wanna use MKV, something on the Internet that is in a legally gray area, Bunny.net stop people from being able to understand

You put a URL in front of it. You say it format auto, size auto, all that stuff.

nothing warp Node, and then I just went through. It was they were, like, a dollar a pair or a dollar per earbud. So I just went through and picked up a pair that was good, and and they're great. I I I just wore them this morning since 9AM, so they they went, I don't know, maybe eight eight hours with noise canceling on. That's Yeah. I I have such a problem with earbuds that I I lose them like crazy. I have four pairs of AirPods. That's why I bought these because I just keep spending AirPods are expensive. I I lose them. Yeah. Yeah. Last time I had AirPods, I had the AirPod Pro two. When I got my concussion in February, I got whiplash. Lost them. AirPods, who knows where the hell they went? That's the second pair of AirPods I've lost snowboarding. The other one I was doing a I was trying to do a five forty, and I I they flew out of my pocket, never to be seen again. I didn't fall. I even landed. I just Yeah. Flew out of my godshorn pocket.

For me because I still pull out my laptop a couple nights a week here and there, cranking on some stuff, vibe coding on some stuff, doing some other stuff. Sometimes I'm, you know, that you just have no time. Right? You have no time. And and the most amount of time I could muster to say, I don't like this. Let me let me get it. I mean, because you did your website a while a little while ago. It's not like you're updating it. For me, I feel like I'm updating it all the time, time, but I'm never finishing it. The last time I had a really beautiful website was when I was really hunting for jobs, and and that's really when you need to have it. But I'm not necessarily

That's the bet that might be the best time of your life. Totally. The the stuff you can hit on chicks and all kinds of stuff, man. Like, there's a Scott. Don't tell your don't let your parents watch this part, but, like, yeah, there's

This has meant a lot of late nights and weekends in front of the computer programming away at the app. Recently, we started getting traction,

included. So

bloat and junk on it, and the system isn't optimized.

spending too much time on your phone, I would just just show them. Send them this clip right now.

some of it.

rolled out their should the website be shut down, or should you pay more?

These actually do much better in some situations.

the too good to be true, I'll tell you what. Apple somehow cannot figure out how to have noise canceling headphones and to let you lay down on a pillow with headphones.

And I don't I don't know that I'm, like, in that space, or I I'll tell you. I'm not in that space. Yeah.

images. It's not 20 it's, like, it's probably closer to, like, 5,000 images and four versions of each of those. Right. But that's kinda I wouldn't say that's dirt cheap, but it's also Go I'm pretty sure I have it open sourced. If not, send me a DM, and I'll I'll make sure I open source it because it's it's kind of a a fun little tool. And I love tools like that

which was just a couple hours ago and using recording this episode, I have once again switched my primary browser.

maybe you can paw through database

So if you put Cloudflare in front of it, then then they're not able to tell who you're hosting with, but then you have these, like, weird logistics where hygiene, but it also entirely is their problem because now

If I was to work a couple extra nights a week,

Yeah. Because if you want animation, users? It's kind of at an inflection ESLint. Or do you get your wallpapers from Wes? How is Omar Cheet doing, Scott? And a whole bunch of questions about web development in general. Ready to get ESLint it.

Yes. The question was, do we even still use GIFs? When's the last time you've used a GIF? like, DevRel or people in the community.

and I have 14,947 documentation,

you'd hit space bar, and it would just pop open with a photo of, you know, VLC or something.

like, any of the agent files or any of those types of instruction files. I personally am moving you want people to be working off the same source material in terms of those types of things. Now there's other alternatives to this. You could have your own set of tools to go get those things, and and that's like an API that could go go go get those set of tools. I personally have no problem committing,

cumulative layout shift where, like,

It is But, you know what? I actually like how ugly and big it is. Am I working on it? Yes. So you can even tell I'm working on it because the tags don't have spacing between them. Like, the site is functional, but it it I just ripped out all the CSS. So that's why my website looks bad, but it it didn't, like, two weeks ago. I I was just bored. And me, when I get bored, I I don't really think about And here's what it looks like right now, and I'll tell you why it looks like this. I was looking at it about a week ago or week and a half ago, and I was thinking to myself,

I'm also glad that people are, like, investigating and finding new now I need to resize it. So part of your image pipeline

Yeah. Back in the day, it was like a way to get transparency

Send that. Social networks and things like that. Yeah. It's classic. The cobbler's children have no shoes. You know? We've got so many other, you probably wanna make sure you have a decent looking website. In terms of the question about And I just temporarily switched my site over for a couple hours, and then I switched it back. And I was I got a whole Sanity dashboard full of potential issues, the they have, like, a, b, c on them. So some of them are, like, c grade, and then some of them are just, like, test runs.

Yes. For sure. One more question I forgot to ask you, Scott, from a couple questions ago.

when I deployed it, I would kept my eye very closely on any four Deno fours, both for images and for, like, URLs that warp maybe broken.

what that would actually look like if you get a ton of traffic or if you, turn it back, man. You you've gotten to a successful part here. I think there is a time and a place to just completely shut your computer

What's up, everybody? Before we get started, I wanna tell you about two things. First of all, coming to San Francisco, and we want you to be there. Second of all, we need your spooky web development stories initially, it was $200, and then they're like, hey. You're you're actually, Like, I really miss the Firefox dev tools. And, like, the the Firefox UI, they also and they're putting in a bunch of, like, AI features as well. I I saw my wife use Firefox, and I glanced at it the other day, and I saw I went to go buy a new battery just, like, soldered in, and it turned out it was cheaper

Sick. Great. Great chatting with you today, Wes. Beautiful. See

Oh, yeah. You got Australian there for a minute. Oh, yeah, mate. Oh, yeah.

doing here? but they probably no. They have a CDN, on loud and airy. There's too many things called clouds. My brain is Yeah.

and it shows you a little diagram information attached to that specific agent. And then, therefore, it's not being used if that agent isn't isn't in play.

for the world, and it doesn't feel good to wear to just be constantly He's doing cool stuff. Have you heard of AI? Have you heard of the Internet? It's gonna be big. He's gonna he's probably gonna retire you. He's probably gonna be super rich and and change lives, he says, You need my credit. Alright. I got a sick pick for you. This is for all of our because then you can at least, I'm trying to find where the actual compute was.

that is x, y, and z. Mhmm. And then it'll kick out just like a little tile for you. And if you use the dash dash tile flag, it will make sure that you can infinitely tile it. And then I wrote a little app

Yeah. So Meanwhile my website is 14¢. To host a website on AWS cost me a ton of money. Man, I cannot believe how expensive AWS stuff is. AWS and especially on, I've sent designs, and at some point, the inevitable question of how do you want the images comes up. I still don't know the correct answer. For example, if you upload an image to WordPress, it generates multiple versions of that image in various sizes.

she's she's got some features. So maybe I need to give it a another shot back. You know? Like, there's of can I can I make this focus on the camera here?

Now

to buy when you slide off the

If they're all using the same LLMs,

they're not making a ton of money. And, in fact, I bet Vercel loses And after I had asked a question about what it was. Like, they're just they're like, you're dead to us. No longer.

just the images alone. And

I love reading things like that, like, LOL. LOL.

that's great because it allows anybody to start up a thing, but the quality

building an image hosting and video compression service for myself using CloudFlare.

when does that become a problem?

broke on an old iOS device. All of the bugs just popped up, and I was able to just bang, bang, bang, fix them up myself. So check it out. Century.i0/syntax.

on on I'm writing a Python server. Go go look at the rules that we have for writing a Python server, and it will pull them down. So Cursor just rolled out this thing called team rules, which is kinda cool, so you can

McDonald.

Yeah. Man, Node a Bakken's my daughter, like, is officially putting it on literally everything. She's got rice. She's pouring on like, she puts it on everything. Dad, we're having, I will put that in instructions and be fine with that. Yeah. Yeah. Commit that all day. Yeah. I think it's fine. If it's similar to, incredibly important and incredibly valid because

AI features on top of the product when I all I care about is Bandwidth at the end of the day.

and he got

Like, instead of having little ones. But, yeah, again, they're all just memes or whatever. I'm putting in breakdancing clips into my, tech talks and stuff like the more stuff you put into

text mess as much as people hate, they'll, like, send a text with a Node. That will add a huge layer of security to your to your He didn't say, but I'm pretty sure this guy is selling

a Svelte instructions file that's used and picked up on every single query, you could have a Svelte agent that has

per seat per month, and it's it's because they they want to the, what is it, the bare bottle brewing

Yeah. Word.

For anything.

on so also check out Bunny. This is one thing. I don't hear a lot of people talking about bunny.net.

Node to five, Monday to Friday, think, like, man, I'm so busy, and then my phone is like, you

Insane.

I personally feel that we should, but many do not since it JS not code. What are your thoughts on this? Yes. Put it in version control.

CloudFlare

So now I have

gets that same version. To me, that feels like the most modern solution.

which I can appreciate You could also do an MCP server. When we had Kyle Seismet on from Coinbase,

money on some of these, hacked their account and merged it with their own so you can look back at it. Mitch k says, I work at a FAANG company, But then I

so locked into just being alone JS it becomes just such a bad habit to always have it on and always have it around you. So, like, I don't care if

that this is the best of life for me? Okay. Two questions here. Scott, why does your website suck so much? Yeah. Let me let me pop open both of our websites. This is my website, folks.

can we figure this out?

go onto computer stuff is great. Career is great. Push it. You know? Grind hard. But at the same time, what does that look like, and

hacked, ones in Canada 5,000, what the hell? We'll add six more people on at at $30 a month. You know? Like, that is gravy rather than, a Chinese website.

Any of these things that does have a generous free tier the moment you start getting real

like, I have a whole list of bad ASNs

running their own apps where users can get compromised even if it's not the app's fault? So, ultimately, what Omar is referring to here is, let's say, the user account got hacked because

And shipped in Safari, and which means, like,

I am using

I'm I'm a big fan of mine. I spent a lot of time on that and on the design, on all the parts of it. So

that's why. As far as sticking on your phone, you can choose to play this part or not for your parents, but I think you probably should go outside a little bit and do some other stuff too. Touch grass. Touch. I think you should touch a little bit of grass, and you should, pick up a hobby that's not on your or your computer as well because, phones and computers are great. But let me just tell you, man, it is tough once you get, like,

I I was just my eyes were crossed trying to look at my Cloudflare bill. I was just saying, how much did I spend this month on it? And it took me, like, five minutes to do it. So and you seem to, like agreed to do AWS pricing. It is Yeah.

as a site that shows it looks like the last post for this is May, 2025. Maybe these horrors have stopped.

it. Wes side, on the other hand, I am surprised to hear You upload it with their API.

it's good for me. It's good for my career. It it's really fun, you know, and it's it's all around good. So just because that is part of my job. Yeah. It's hard. We have four kids, and I hate leaving her, and it's it's it's really taxing on her. But

Can we all get along? Yeah. Come on. Come on. That tweet got no love, by the way. I tweeted that. Really? Maybe it's because I don't pay for Twitter, but that got no love. Can I try TypeScript and see at Costco. They got all kinds of stuff. I took a selfie by wearing my Bakken shirt at Costco next to the big display.

Yeah. AirPods are are maybe a different story. But in very often. I've seen them every now and then at, like, specialty shops, but I was in The States a couple weeks ago, and I grabbed the sweet and savory Korean barbecue sauce and

And it's super easy to install. Took one second. Worked first try. And, Ben, if you if you've been feeling this pain, you got this. So so many times, I personally just decided that Omarji missing things like really good dual monitor support

let you know that Vercel gives us free Man, I should do an update on two of that was browser rendering, so rendering my open graph images.

throwing the image in there, and then your image pipeline is going to generate multiple I for longest time, I was just using the Raycast wallpapers, actually, because they have really nice gradients.

rather than trying to pick a host that won't shut you down.

And it it's so annoying because there's no room in our fridge for anything anything else.

that I completely block any request from is well worth your time, and I personally

on demand, want them, and then you can share them amongst multiple projects should you want to. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. There's levels to this. That's, for sure depends on what's working for you. Next question from Reg. Hi, guys. For the past year, a friend and I have been working on a side project in our spare time.

I think, like like, first step is

The cost can get up there in terms of how much traffic you're getting.

use Cloudflare images. Another little trick you can do, and they probably don't like this, but I wrote a Oh, yeah. It was it was more like like edge compute, you know, like, only server Node, Use the coupon code tasty treat for two months for free.

Alright. Next question for Matt. Since you guys are a Canadian podcast, is there any way to get stuff shipped like that feels like a a problem to solve for a scale that is not like a boutique kinda app. I see this a lot. And and, specifically, it's better. West's side to me is beautiful. I I love this. Yeah.

features, and you can't use your main driver to to test them out.

For what? there's a delicate balance, which JS, for every company,

Chrome tabs. Although I am using a new browser, Wes, in between Oh my gosh. Recording the last episode, quick look plug in for MKV.

from like, psychologically Really? Yes. Is JS it from Bluetooth?

How do you handle it when a customer's That's the problem. Because the alternative to that is you do a pick, pack, and, print, pack, and ship or whatever where what they do is they grab a T shirt off the rack or, like, a mug on the rack, and they do, like, a quick print on it and, like, toss it out. It's junk. It's all junk. So we don't want we don't want anything.

Yeah. Yeah. Word. Question for Scott.

Only if you mention only if it does pnpm, you can do a little by the way, Scott told me about this.

with this was always that. But on actual Wes projects, I'm not using GIFs for anything. I I I almost never did anyways.

or milliseconds,

you're you're buying what you pay for, and that's what it is. There's no

Vimeo onto Mux

because I felt that too. Given that you both have successful businesses and, at least from the outside, maintain happy families. How do you manage to find that balance, help loved ones understand, and while still building things without sacrificing other aspects of life? Tough, There's plenty of time to program. Yeah. You you could you could definitely get lost. I mean, I'm sure if that's, like, really, really what you wanna do, but touch some grass. Yeah. For sure. Question for Scott. Do are those the new AirPod threes? or something like Maestro to build up your own kind of internal Yeah. Folks. Alright. Well, let's get into sick picks. I'm gonna sick pick something. Wes, did you know that there are actually modern quick look plug ins? Quick look is,

when Midjourney

GIF?

I went nuts on it because I love a tiled a wallpaper. So I and for me to just go drink beer with a bunch of wahoos

Should I be asking for different sizes of the same image for desktop, tablet, or more? backups and and try to restore that information.

I'm really tired of the CSS in this site.

I got nothing but anger for how Apple handles formats, border logistics.

6,000,000 Like, not like a GIF, like a meme, like a auto playing, because most GIFs these days are just are just Grabbed it at Target.

whenever I do, like, a hot tip or whatever, I try to generate a

tough question because

from Momofuku.

Say, listen, So I talked to him, like, yeah. You can go for, like, a a WordPress self hosted or if you wanna use, like, a payload or a Strapi, something like that. Just host it all yourself and and build it full stack.

Okay. I didn't put this question in here. Scott's site has huge font sizes.

But,

LOL.

account gets hacked? like, boo. Yeah.

where you just solve your problems That's awesome. You know how Koreans have, like, a kimchi fridge because they have so much kimchi? I need, like, a condiments fridge because it's just it drives me nuts. I open our fridge, and there's no room for food. It's all sauces. Hot sauce and And it's like, my kids love it. Part of the problem with, like, stuff with my kids is it's it's often spicy.

or not is is another Wes. But from what I've seen, website, it's just like, I'd rather build

Node as well. Next question, Mark I like Versus Code, man. I like it. So it's cool. I like it. If I had a better, the less room you have for other things. In fact, you can

in all of my sites, and then I let like, I personally use Cloudflare images as well, and then I let them just figure out the the feature lag. You know? I was I'm you're making on whether you should put LLM context files. So that's, like, Vercel rules, VSS code rules, But then the the more interesting question is, like, where do you go to host things on the Internet when you're doing legally dubious putting our ESLint, our TS config, our Prettier RC. We're putting all those files in our version control. So if it has something to do with how the LMM generates the code in terms of style, in terms of if it's creating new new folders, if you're using camel case, all of that, I think that certainly belongs in your git repo. But like Scott said, like, docs and, like, larger things, and submit your questions. We'll keep you anonymous. Don't worry. Nothing nothing to worry there. Don't worry. Do not worry. Do not worry. Everything will be okay. What's up, Wes? probably the one for me is, like, my wife is very okay with me going to conferences, and they have containers now too.

like, your your developer with their $20 bill.

to estimate

source set,

I know somebody in the supplement space who put a JotForm together that ended up getting reported and shut down, and he asked me to make him a website. So the story here is that this guy is selling you attract the worst people on Earth that try to to abuse it and game it and whatnot. And at one point, this is probably six or seven years ago, I had my points thing

need to then build your whole business on this thing, and is the bottom line gonna cut it? You know? Are you gonna have enough money to pay for it? I always caution people about the, like and this is not for sale only. This is this is every single

worth of points back. So they're out that

Okay.

Pay based on usage is great until it's very hard to understand usage. You know? There's bandwidth. There's transfer

You get the idea, basically, what are the best practices in dealing with images. Let me just say,

Very reasonable. Scott. Not a $100 a month. Yeah. It's pretty reasonable.

Wes, this has been a a problem no matter what. Honestly

have that generated. And and an added benefit of having a pipeline for your images is that you can also

they talked a lot about their internal tooling, though, that they used what was it? They used LangGraph you cannot,

And sizes of it and and peering partners that maybe is is or isn't charged. There's, Canada is with our biggest grocery store chain. It's called Loblaws, and they have, like, a points program. Right? And that's just like anytime you have gift cards or or or points, and the bill goes up, and Vercel will just, like, that much. So you really gotta, like, just take care of your users. Your users are babies, sucks. Sucks. Like, it's not good. The Sprint on Demand stuff, it looks good, and it's not good

your partner, Yeah. Last time I checked, I didn't see if I I think you couldn't host, like,

like, this stuff Scott that cost real money at the end of the day.

help you like, we used to Sanity help you fix your errors, but it does literally everything. You know? There's all these AI agents that you can hook it up in your your GitHub, and it will find bugs in your code Bos. And

that is muted.

like, a settings file, like, we're we're

using Cloudinary was the easier solution for me, and therefore, I went with that. I recently

So you can use Cloudinary then it costs, like, $5. And then a couple years later, they just doubled their prices, and they're adding all these, like, shitty you can share them amongst your team.

It depends. You know? Like, did Taylor Swift just tweet about your cool syntax T shirt, and we wanna sell a bazillion of them? Fire up more servers. We gotta handle all the Node. Or, like, is are you getting DDoSed and,

ticking over 5,000 users in getting commercial interest. Reg. Yeah. Nice. 5,000 users. Cool.

your your content will shift down once an image has loaded because you can that can come and get me and come and shut me down. But then Oh, It's, Cloudflare Pages. Oh. Oh, don't have traffic, don't have problems.

working on nights and weekends a little bit here too. But you have to understand that there's a a delicate balance there. And if you are causing some waves there, shut that laptop. Not worth it. Yeah. It's certainly not. You're not gonna be remembering.

I'm gonna use no

that could be done

a new wallpaper for each of them Really? Just to put behind the video because I think it's I don't know. It looks nice, and and I think it's it's a bit of a scroll stopper sometimes when you see an interesting one. So

Is that the right approach? How do you decide whether an image should be a JPEG, PNG,

And it's just like, folks, how much things will cost, and that's why people just do $20 a month. And you see it with, like, cloud code and all these AI right now as well where, initially, everyone's like, $20 a month. Go nuts. You can just use whatever you want. And then, like it's the best stuff. It's all good quality. It's awesome stuff.

a something mirrored to another

I actually do think that would be an interesting

And, like, I'm trying to get their their spice tolerance up, but this one is not spicy at all, and they they absolutely love it as well. So check that one out.

Saizbic's

l. Mark l says, hi. I've been a jack of all trades web dev for twenty five years now, mainly back end, but I've never been fully comfortable dealing with images.

the the thing that killed me and then I switched is just, like, I don't know if that's better or not than because it's generally a project by project basis.

bill? It's people can, like, merge accounts.

So I bought 20 tile.

Helium as the default browser right now. Who who makes that?

very hard to figure out of especially when you're trying to make a lot more money on those high end enterprise customers.

style, So,

Man, that is good.

that would take a mid journey

a lot of references to a lot of the stuff that we deal in. Yeah. That's true.

that sits in front of Cloudinary.

app. Yeah. Prevent preventative seems like the right way to go here. You gotta go ahead. What happens if after the fact? Yeah. You gotta you gotta piece it. Hopefully, you have some sort of audit trail as to what happened, when did they sign in, and free. So I have about 20,000 images, I guess, on my website, Do you know? Yeah. Yeah. Good point. Like like, there's gotta be something else I can give. You know? There's always sometimes

What steps do you take in order to secure it and clean it up, and what best practices would you recommend for developers

I used to have it, and then I can, like, look at the audit trail and be like, hey. You actually merged it with a different email address. And, like, oh, okay. But, like, it also could be that somebody

But

Like, it's hard because, like, you're not gonna remember this in in fifty years when you're dead, but you also might. Like, it might just like, it might make you a million dollars and then absolutely change your entire family's trajectory. Right? And so I think that having an understanding instances the the slide and, like, animated GIFs are the quality was always so terrible, and the file size got so big. Yeah. So I know we have such better formats Node, folks. Apple, somebody took these out of some e recycling and then put them for sale on the Internet.

on my on all of my websites. And these are all just bad ISPs that let spammers and scammers

that then end up turning into big bills. I don't think this is a hard and fast rule, but, like, it is something you gotta, like, have you gotta have an understanding of,

one little feature that I use Sentry for, I was just talking about my own website moving over all of the images.

Scott Sanity seven minutes on TikTok today. It's like, ah, yeah.

No. It's like it it's it's like the physical keyboard on the laptop, you can tell that there's latency? Yeah. I don't I don't use a Bluetooth keyboard. I'm typing on my laptop. Really? charge you

I deleted rid of it. I got rid of it, and I kept the base CSS. So this is what my site looks like with just base CSS.

wrote a tool

I saved a bunch of stuff as web apps instead of when the user requests an image, it knows what their browser can support, what format is going to be the smallest.

First question like, the manufacturer before they were ready for

chicken nuggets. Can I get the octopus sauce? Like, absolutely. The octopus sauce. Landon won't touch it, but Brooklyn loves it. Oh, man. It's it's so good. I what's the black? I saw they have black versions now. I don't know. They got pineapple at at,

And then who should you host it with? I would probably podcasts about these new is is nuts. You know? Like, that's the biggest complaints we hear is, like, shipping is is brutal. It's like we're we're losing money on this stuff. You know? We're just selling it for as cheap as we can. I often have fights with the team to lower the prices on everything, at the end of the day, you still have to host it somewhere. Right? So he asked, like, what should I use?

on Bunny.

So what I ended up doing was $13 if it if it pops?

even get AI to do this for you if you want. You take a bucket

company in San Francisco.

I'm ready to go. We got some really good potluck questions around free tier pricing. Should you be concerned with the $20 a month? We we apparently, we spooked a whole bunch of people. So questions around, like, source set and image sizes, image formats. What should I be enterprise.

What? Nothing AirPods nothing ear AirPods instead

very working, and wonderful

Question from Wallpaper McBoring. Wes, I've always loved the vibe of your desktop wallpapers in your videos. Where can I find them? Specifically, the recent Skeleton Boy one. Yeah. I It will cost a couple bucks to ship it, but Oh, yeah. Like like, she understands. Like, it's it's good for external services

And and we should say that the reason why you do this so there's there's two major approaches to well, I guess there's three major approaches. You just put the image in your folder. You load it up, you know, public folder anywhere on the app, the the static folder, whatever. You just load that image. Then you have the pipeline one that Wes is talking about Wes you take your images, you create all the versions of those images of different sizes and,

is a being 19 and your parents being to another one at one point. And then whether the domain will be seized or not is is another one. But I think that that's probably a good idea. Find something like a like a Hetzner or DigitalOcean.

in my talks, yeah, I use

it's it almost starts to get out of hand because

I'm using the same kind of CLI tools that I was using on that. The only thing is I have stopped using Neovim because, if you're watching on video, you may have astute observers may have noticed I did pick it up off the ground. But, Wes, that's just because that was the most convenient place for my charging cable to go. I still really like the operating system. I still really like the laptop. The problem is is my hardware is junk. So that, like, system 76 laptop like the laptop? Yeah. I don't

Americans think that everything should be free shipping, which is, like, Nothing Ones. I found a really good deal on them online, that hacker went and and cashed out the points, and now they gotta give you a $150 and Yeah. 12 of that was images.

originals that you can. Like, don't tell your designer, hey. Give me a 800 pixel version, a 600 pixel version. That's it's not that's never gonna work. And and when you need to update something, you gotta be like, and cache those. So you don't have to keep paying for the the bandwidth or the transformations with Bandwidth. Bandwidth is expensive I guess, Cloudflare, Yeah. So, like, if somebody, like, logs in and say, hey. My course is gone.

like, man, GIF,

classic. The cobbler's

to run local LLMs or to do some video editing and stuff. You kinda need that power. Chrome tabs. Yeah.

But And I still Yes. You have a 100 people working on the same project.

I say GIF. Sorry, folks.

I I probably could've done a little less than that.

it's not really Cloudflare worker

from Canada? A Canadian based store would definitely help with the currency shipping duties and, or just there there are some times when you're like, you can feel the fact that this is, like, not

I think my advice here is don't try and do it yourself.

with it. Last question here from Patrick

How are things with Omarji?

but that feels

on my PC and my phone. I won't say it's a lie, and I'm working on a project because I want to complete it. I work from home. How can I convince my parents

It is called MKV Quick Look. Imagine that.

just using JS Chrome tabs. So I've really replicated my user experience ESLint Omar g a lot.

you gotta know when to not because make my thoughts be known about Wes. Js JS without concern.

I wanna keep the paths the same.

feature now that's really good. So you could very easily I use GIFs for the my little stream deck, but on a website,

screwed the pooch? Do you have a story where you deleted a database, where you deployed the wrong website, where you let a domain name expire, some awful story around building for the web? We wanna hear it, and we will read them out on

It's going to create that image on the fly. It's going to send them the perfect image for them and then cache that on their end. So the next user that needs that same version anywhere, r two, s three, any of that stuff. You take a bucket. You take a CloudFlare worker. You send the image to the worker. It puts it in the bucket. You get a path back.

you use, like, a video. Like, I I haven't used a GIF in, like, conference talk for a long time. I just use muted looping video. And that way, you can pause the video

more away from that style, though, because But that that comes at a pnpm penalty of, So MKV,

Just a literally a handful

a mature operating system like macOS.

So I'm pretty sure throw a cloud flare in front of in front of your entire website. And what that will do is it will at least figure out what the width and height, the dimensions our loyalty to any company, Question from diabetic codes. This one is interesting because he also DM'd me with a little bit more sauce on Instagram. I thought this was really interesting. So, children have no shoes. You know? We've got so many other things that we are working on, so many other little applications. When it comes time to doing your own

pay by usage that's predictable.

you're like, oh, well, I've I have these cursor rules for my front end and then these other ones for the back end and the but it only should apply to this. And then before you know it, you're writing all these weird rules, and it's it's much easier just to say, hey, agent.

competitor.

they let a lot of stuff slide in most cases. You know? Like, there's a lot of piracy and and stuff hosted on Cloudflare.

14¢.

donating it is not the not the move. You know? That's gonna end up in a landfill somewhere.

SvelteKit

Folks, come on, folks. Alright.

and it was a really good deal because the battery of one of them was, like, totally shot. And then I went searching for did you know, like, the batteries in these headphones are they're just little coin cells, and they're fairly replaceable

some of this is like beware of

just to sit in front of it and

dove into

and it was great because it was just like, oh, well, there's my day. This is my to do list of of things to do. You know? The Yeah. These things are four zero four ing. This thing it it will just, like it'll blur in or or download as it wants, but the spot that that image takes is so having a whole image pipeline

free tier. Like, we'll host your whole database for free. Don't even don't even worry about it, bro. We got you. We got you. You wanna host your whole database? Don't worry about it. Like, to me, that's where where you gotta be prepared.

image transformation,

What should I do with 5,000 like, worldwide logistics before all the, like, crazy tariff stuff in The States they're brand new, but they have little markings on them that looks like they're from like, milliseconds on CPU. So if your if your serverless is running for ten seconds, but you're only actually running CPU for,

OS, if I had a better laptop or something, I might like it a lot more. But I'm not gonna I don't really see myself moving away from Apple hardware anytime soon after doing a bunch of research in there, especially because I'm looking at, like, for my next computer, maybe getting a Mac Studio individual users' data Vercel, any of that stuff, real life, you cannot sacrifice that stuff to build an app. 5,000 users is great. If you got 5,000 users in here, yeah, I'm not gonna say that, like, additional nights and weekends wouldn't help, but, like, you know, you Scott you got away that. I I personally think at this point,

Wes? Do you have it hosted?

to be able to serve the correct one. Or then there's the third option, which is Cloudinary

but it sucks because you can't just hit space. And then you also can't just drag them into any app. Can we all get along? because of the stuff he's doing right now. So business out there that is trying to attacked,

Terrible idea.

Yeah. I was looking at Anchor positioning the other day, and I was getting frustrated at the Firefox support for it. It shipped in,

spooky stories. Do you have a story where you absolutely I'm just looking at my

Do we even still even use GIFs? What size should I ask for? Say, a hero banner background image. Is it generally true that bigger is better? So I can it can be scaled down to required sizes.

So I have some a couple extra rules I've added. I could probably get rid of those and move that into a worker.

and I was curious. Since I I moved my website over to Cloudflare, I don't know, maybe six months ago, and I was curious what the bill was for So and you're not allowed to to do what you're doing, which is streaming course videos.

from.

that give and take understanding.

There are lots of a month for 20,000

with paying for Cloudinary.

but getting the same feedback.

So yeah. Pretty nice. Yeah. Yeah. And people who say you use Zen, I ain't never using a Firefox main. I'm sorry. Man, I opened Firefox the other day, and I was like, I missed this. Just the UI of it is so good. The dev tools UI is so good. Yeah. Dev tools UI Slabs for sure. Fast.

I think putting them in, like, an MCP is probably your best bet and other assorted prompts and LLM generated docs into version control? Cool. I I got no clue on this. So I'm I'm glad you had that. I love I'm not a bad guy, but I do love this understanding the city. I'm not a good guy. Of things. Yeah. But Like, I don't I don't do bad stuff, but I do like understanding

Bingo bango. You pay for Cloudinary.

and and garlic sauces and and bokken sauce.

of where the context is being taken up. And if you have too many instruction files, you'll see that there's much less room for other types of context. So other alternatives for this types of things, you could have specialized agents that have some of that knowledge prebaked into them based on what they're working on specifically.

So I went and I deleted all of the CSS except for

And I got my renewal email from them, and I was like, yeah. I'm moving to mux. And, like, they didn't email me back for two weeks

Wes, Node noise.

certain amount of users that you wanna keep very happy, then, like,

was $5 because you have to I think you have to pay for $5 a month for the images

enticing thing because, like, there's answers for all of these questions transform

20

sacrifice the things in life that are really important. Your family,

to transform your images, but then you can use a CloudFlare cache API easy. Loved it. Wes you posted that, I immediately was like, I have that one, and, like, I have the one that just gives you thumbnails. It gives you several thumbnails, and I was like, that sucks. I wanna just hit space. And and the benefit to using MKV but there's there's things that pop up. You know? Like, like,

quality, and then you use things like,

pull the docs on

and stuff. But, yeah, it's been a long time since I use GIFs for anything other than just looping videos.

So you can you can tell MidJourney, like, hey. Make me a wallpaper,

My wife, however, doesn't see that. Instead, she's tired of a husband being hidden away in his office every night and weekend working, which I can associate,

the, like, the nothing

It's there. You get the ID from it. Throw that in your database, whatever it may be, that URL path.

because, like, like, Vimeo just started screwing me. You know? Like, it was where your website is hosted. Whether whether CloudFlare will take you down, you

And guess what? That feedback,

with your partner of being like, I am doing this,

tooling for MCP to grab the data from your own knowledge base. That's a possibility too.

that is the more kind of global context your LLM is going to use. And the more you're filling up that global context,

That's the thing. It's, like, people are like, well, this open source project has a store with 80 items in it, and you can get 40 phone cases and whatever. And formats,

Mine Scott nothing.

the Amazon logistics. So you can get stuff shipped to Canada.

they wanna get that enterprise customer where, CJ's was alien themed in short. Wes's was better. Thank you. At least I could read the text.

for the images, but I, like, I hate I hate having I I hate having WebPs in my, like, folders just because, like, it it doesn't work with half the stuff out there. You know? So is simply going to be and you're in trouble? You know? Or are you on top of Hacker News and you just people are using your little app that you built, and you didn't expect it to run up a $3,000 what format to serve up. So it generally, it's, like, gonna be a Wes

Yeah. Okay. I got two answers to this too. My website and other professionals' websites, I I think, like you said, with the cobbler shoes thing, you know, the peach cobbler's got no pie, whatever you said. I for me, personally, I I think

now got hacked because you have bad

Yes. Does that mean that we can't trust services that have a generous free tier and only a $20 pro tier, or is the pro tier just a hook to open up for more billing? Your comments worried me as a developer whose stack is in the for sale marketplace. Yeah. I think