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about 1 year ago Syntax Podcast

AI Tools You Should Know

Wes Bos

Wes Bos Host

Scott Tolinski

Scott Tolinski Host

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Scott Tolinski

awesome stuff Yeah. Give it a good shake. Yeah. Cool. Well, are you ready to get go? Actually, before we do that, if you're given anything new, a a new shake at all, whether that's a new coding language, new anything, or even you have an app that is, JS Nation React Summit just happened.

Wes Bos

Because even even with Cloud Code, you know, like, I I kinda brushed it off for a couple months. I was like, you know, I'm I'm happy with Cursor. And but, like, after talking to how many people are using this type of thing, I'm like, I gotta, like, keep a bit of an open mind with these I'm missing something. Give them all a good shake

Scott Tolinski

Although, I'll I will tell you what. Getting Courtney to use Spotlight to open anything JS, like because she'll just, like, go into her doc and click on it or whatever. I'll be like, you know, you can do command space bar and just type in what you want. And she's, fuck. Okay. Thank you.

Scott Tolinski

resting

Wes Bos

macOS has voice to text built in. I hit my control key twice, and I can dictate Yeah. And then

Scott Tolinski

really, really intense about their browser choices. I mean, I feel like we knew that, but, like, people are either really angry or they're very, like,

Wes Bos

Yeah. Yeah. Exact that's the biggest problem is getting them to recognize the word century as not c e n t u r y.

Wes Bos

These are, like, hats that you're actually gonna wear. These are high quality hats. Look, they're all it's all custom.

Scott Tolinski

just one besides, he's an incredible speaker, so, like, he could be talking about something I'm not interested in and it's still gonna be captivating.

Scott Tolinski

I have dove into Comfy UI

Wes Bos

app. Okay. So I would assume it's just a custom keyboard. Right? Yeah. But switching keyboards sucks on iOS. It's so slow. Yeah. So I don't know if that's but the one on iOS is actually pretty good, especially

Scott Tolinski

Yeah. Do any of these work on iOS as well? I don't know how you would integrate that with Bos, considering gotten deep into it, but, like yeah. You Node, you're you're on a website. You have a question about some text. You can highlight that text and then ask the question directly in the browser, you know, with, like, one click. So like, mobile. Everybody's using mobile. Like, But one thing, one very common thread was that a lot of people when you command t to open a new tab, the or even just being able to truly understand what your users are doing and how and why.

Wes Bos

their early access.

Scott Tolinski

at and reference those various tabs of those various hotel options and ask it questions.

Scott Tolinski

it's already changing the way primarily that I'm I'm browsing and interacting with Internet.

Scott Tolinski

well, I'm, I'm out on the browser company to being like, really? They got it.

Scott Tolinski

DataStax has their own

Wes Bos

And, click on the Syntax collection, and Century's actually got some pretty sick t shirts. I wore my But Yeah. Surfing the web is the original MCP server. So it makes sense. I'll give it a shot.

Wes Bos

This one, you have to, like, say it and then Scott, and then it generates the actual text for you. I assume that that would probably come because

Scott Tolinski

via a nice little UI in a way that you could really see that as being like a power user type of thing Wes, like, oh, I really wanna do get answers directly there. And to me, this is starting to break the barrier of like, so for instance, if if Diya knows that I learn primarily has already changed in, like, the week that I've been using this browser. It is in beta. I I have seen a couple of things that people who are Arc fans will like. I've seen on Twitter them saying that the sidebar is being implemented.

Wes Bos

And you can use a shortcuts app in them. The shortcuts shortcuts app in I I think where this stuff is really AI stuff. Like, I I like Raycast, but I primarily use it for window management, launcher, etcetera, etcetera, those types of things. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's really good, especially, like, it's, like, time to answer is really fast. I know ChechiPT has a desktop app, and then you can you can set up a hot key or whatever. But

Scott Tolinski

like, I lost every game the other night, but,

Wes Bos

Yeah. It's I'm I'm quite surprised that Raycast hasn't done this yet. That seems, like,

Scott Tolinski

I loved Arc, and I will never trust the browser company again.

Wes Bos

my hot key for almost everything is Raycast, so it's kinda nice being able to do it cause you just type in the box and hit tab. You don't even have to open a I have I have I have caps lock a and and you can go through it. But it just it doesn't have desktop app a open source model for doing speech to text.

Scott Tolinski

Raycast I'm not sure. If you if you want to give the new UI a try, the little question mark help thing, and then there's a switch to

Wes Bos

Alright. That works. Cool. You know? Yeah. I think it it will probably get better, but also, like, competitors or similar tools to Langflow, a desktop icon, or, like, there's something weird about it being a pop up where I feel like I'm gonna lose it. It's weird. It's always been weird. I can't describe what that feeling is.

Scott Tolinski

way off the the right here. Yeah. There's gotta be No kidding. Way worse stuff happening And this game, you can get for, like, $12.

Scott Tolinski

Yeah. Yeah. For sure.

Scott Tolinski

But I will say This thing would rip on mobile. Why why isn't this a mobile

Wes Bos

like, patch cables to the boxes to do things. Right? You got boxes. You got inputs. You got outputs. You got little things that come in and out. You connect them to each other.

Wes Bos

they sunset it. Like, okay. Yeah. That's right then. You can they are better. Like, what I just did right there, I said, but what they do, ChatGPD can't do that, and then, like, that's the whole promise of but we got a whole bunch more on the way. By the time you're watching us, they probably are back in the shop.

Scott Tolinski

So Langflow is my first one, and I I thought this was great.

Wes Bos

these apps are better. See, I just did it right there. I said, these I've used Whisper before, and you can it. So I use it's just I I don't have any I I highly doubt Apple will And there's another one called Whisperflow, which Kenzie Dodge is using, so I'm gonna give them both a good shake. But the idea with both of these is they are desktop applications that do voice to text.

Wes Bos

into, like, American sizes.

Scott Tolinski

Now the one thing I don't understand about any of these new paradigm I believe it's open source, so you can check it out on GitHub.

Scott Tolinski

I have not I'm a node based UI kind of guy. So for me to have a node based UI for doing this type of thing seems like a really nice,

Wes Bos

like, a boot camp,

Scott Tolinski

man, what a great run conference. They always are.

Scott Tolinski

Tejas Kumar did a talk on LangFlow So either way, he connects an input, comfy UI is just people making, like, inappropriate anime stuff. It is it is I joined I joined the comfy UI Reddit, and then I unjoined it about ten seconds later. I was like, holy cow. These folks are Yes. And so you might have an input that is a chat input,

Wes Bos

you I highly recommend Syntax felt ones. And like, let me tell you, All kinds of really good stuff. So if you want a nice hat,

Scott Tolinski

And instead of, like, going to Google and searching for answers about this video game, Dia knows that I'd like to learn via video.

Scott Tolinski

there. Yeah. That would be wild to be using this stuff for anything other than just,

Wes Bos

it's like a crappy swag item.

Wes Bos

Should do a whole episode like this where I'm just at the bottom.

Scott Tolinski

But nice a nice little card game for kids.

Wes Bos

and he's next level in thinking of how to use all these things. And one of the tools that he was using that I had written off for a while, which was an app called Super Whisper.

Wes Bos

we're also pissed at all the stuff. Google sunsets, and I I won't pay for most of that stuff as well. You know? Like, you hope that a company has your your best interests

Scott Tolinski

revolutionarily I know my my kids can get a little upset if they've gone through several games and haven't won once. So the fact that, LangFlow is interesting to me because it's much more, like, productivity based, which I'm a productivity, many different services And, and and all the information you need, which is probably most important. Right? Yeah. Give me the information I need. Make it easy. And Sentry absolutely does that. Alright.

Scott Tolinski

were very angry at the browser company for sunsetting Arc. And I get it. I like Yarn. Yeah. Right. So. Yeah. Arc was my my favorite browser.

Scott Tolinski

I was emceeing. Many of you may have seen me up on the stage introducing

Wes Bos

And I specifically was trying Super Whisper first, a, because it's Canadian, and and, b, because that's the one that John Link Wes was using. But you can also download additional models. You can use the one in the cloud, you can stream it to the cloud, or you can you Yeah. I've downloaded Compu UI.

Scott Tolinski

Yeah. Give it a rip. I'll give you an invite. It JS, It's a card game. It's super easy to pick up. Again, my kids are, like, six and eight, yeah, it's not, like, the fact that people are getting fooled on all kinds of stuff these days, and it's just like it it's a little, like, this then this and this and connect it together.

Scott Tolinski

but I think they probably could have played this at five and seven. No problem. Maybe even younger. It's kind of you got, like, a memory game. There's some math involved.

Wes Bos

it's, it's been pretty good. The one thing that kills me though, is I just, I run out of space on my computer so fast because these models there's just, like, every possible permutation

Scott Tolinski

or Slack

Wes Bos

check out, what what's what's the URL of our store there, Scott? Century.shop.

Scott Tolinski

Hat time for me, definitely traveling. Don't have to deal with a bunch of stuff. Cool. Well, thank you so much for listening and hanging around with us. We will catch you in the next one. Peace. Peace.

Scott Tolinski

same thing. But iOS has never fixed their keyboard,

Wes Bos

comfortable in in the tools that you're using.

Wes Bos

they use Whisper, which is these

Scott Tolinski

Yeah.

Scott Tolinski

And my daughter, who is six,

Wes Bos

of MCP servers.

Wes Bos

Yeah. That drives me nuts. Yeah. That's Wes I was teaching, five ten, two hundred pounds.

Scott Tolinski

on your own different, but there's enough niceties in this thing that, like, q and a. A lot of, like, really amazing speakers. A lot of cool people were there. Huge, huge crowd.

Scott Tolinski

You can compare several tabs at once. Like, you can reference tabs. So, like, if, let's say, you had several different hotel options,

Wes Bos

like, basically, I wanted to, like, up your face for dating profile images.

Scott Tolinski

For me, here's what I found. I have a Mac mini back there. I just throw that shit on there because, like, what what else do I have on Mac mini? I have my tech server. So and then I don't have to bog down my or, like, my actual machine. But I haven't I I haven't tried to do any video.

Scott Tolinski

in the future here coming forward. Because this, in many ways, is like cursor you can play enough games that eventually somebody probably different will win is, it's Node.

Scott Tolinski

website interfaces are also varied and wild that you might not be it might not be easy for you to get the information you need.

Scott Tolinski

JS Nation this and then they they they, of what we're going to be seeing from browsers I've been using this.

Wes Bos

ripe for Raycast adding this feature. Yeah.

Wes Bos

in in chat g p t, which

Scott Tolinski

But

Wes Bos

I was using Raycast as my, like, main chat app for probably over a Yarn.

Wes Bos

that that's just how naturally we talk. And They're more better. Would it correct you if you said more better? At at dictating it. And then, of course, they they have a whole bunch of features where you can add in

Scott Tolinski

Shout out to Joshua.

Scott Tolinski

So, fundamentally,

Wes Bos

these apps,

Scott Tolinski

this because it's Sanity, what's the point? I command t. It's already got a chat window. I start typing, or I'm asking it questions directly about something that's happening in my browser, and it's all just there.

Wes Bos

is that

Scott Tolinski

Either way, chat input. He connects it to the website.

Wes Bos

And I had written off these things for the longest time because

Scott Tolinski

And then it would just tell him, Shruti's talk is here. Right? And then add that talk to my calendar. Right? Contextual Node

Wes Bos

custom macOS and on iPhone is actually really powerful, and I don't see a lot of people

Scott Tolinski

Okay. Now it's time for the part of the show where we do sick picks and shameless plugs. I got a sick pick, and it's a kid's card game.

Scott Tolinski

It has been, one of those things that I I have done a one eighty on from being like,

Wes Bos

with the chat

Scott Tolinski

new tools,

Wes Bos

So frustrating. So I I don't feel

Scott Tolinski

goo, the Google Calendar.

Scott Tolinski

little tools and tips and stuff that you might not have seen or tried yet. My name is Scott Tolinski. I'm a developer from Denver. And with me, as always, is Wes Bos. What's up, Wes?

Wes Bos

Yeah. And especially that it can access stuff that's behind a login,

Scott Tolinski

you know, even Upstash or Perplexity.

Wes Bos

And, like, it's kind of a weird world. I I realized very quickly that a large portion of the,

Scott Tolinski

My kids got this while I was in Amsterdam, search window that you get which models to use, which all the stuff to use, and then I click go, and then I wait an hour, and then maybe something comes out. Maybe I wait maybe I wait three hours, and then something comes out, and maybe it sucks. So

Wes Bos

chat apps and and things that you're you're paying for. So you voice to text and and you're just typing like a barbarian, But what they do is they

Scott Tolinski

fan. By the way, speaking of Hugging Face, I met our homie,

Wes Bos

these are high quality hats. This is not just that knows about your open tabs and can answer Wes? Node can download local models and run it on your machine if you have a fast enough computer. The one thing But I have been pushing myself a little bit more to chat GPT I got you. I pay for Raycast.

Wes Bos

they're almost always using, like, stable diffusion.

Wes Bos

you're just bouncing all over the place trying new stuff. I don't think regular people are doing that, though. I think regular people are probably This looks nice. I do use a lot of text to to speech so or speech to text. Speech to text. Yeah. So I'm gonna I'm gonna give these a a good shake over the next couple weeks instead of using the built in macOS one. And I'll try the the iOS app and see how that fits into my flow.

Scott Tolinski

the

Wes Bos

consistently turning it into a The new UI is awesome. And I I is is that out for everybody now? Like, I know that you can turn it on, but is that I think that's the default now.

Scott Tolinski

you you were bad for liking Arc. Or two, but it is kind of a a wild world of, like, connecting these things.

Scott Tolinski

he did a demo that was live on stage where he JS connecting a box to

Wes Bos

big

Scott Tolinski

That's a yeah. What a cool guy. So yeah.

Wes Bos

Sick. I'm going to sick pick our hats,

Scott Tolinski

You can reference tabs directly. There's a kind of constant chat window about any of the tabs you have open. You can ask it questions about a YouTube video even. So if you have a YouTube video open, you can ask questions directly about the YouTube video itself.

Scott Tolinski

in seconds just by connecting these things.

Scott Tolinski

So

Wes Bos

scared for for Raycast. I am excited that

Scott Tolinski

There's a lot of little things that you can connect here and there. And we had been talking in the last episode we recorded about Wes is, like, the if this, then that kind of these things. And this would be a Node necessarily an if this, then that, but it does give you a lot of tools to connect you can either just type in a URL.

Wes Bos

it was really nice because I could just show people how I worked.

Scott Tolinski

Totally.

Scott Tolinski

You can type in a question.

Wes Bos

So I like that. I like the obviously, the image generation stuff is really good. I've been paying for MidJourney for probably three years, but I think I'm at about

Scott Tolinski

How do you like to learn? What do you like to to the

Wes Bos

like, Raycast ish features.

Wes Bos

I don't know. I'm pretty hot. Yeah. You gotta think OpenAI has gotta put out a browser soon because it makes so much sense shirt sizes that like, you can connect anything. Right? You can put your own API keys in. You can probably It's all your own. Yeah. Have local models? but it's not a good theme for viewing text.

Wes Bos

Look at that syntax tape inside,

Scott Tolinski

our kids love Sleeping Queens and a lot of these card games that they've been playing.

Scott Tolinski

you could if you need them. Yeah. Especially, like This definitely verifies that to me because I'm like I said, I have not been opening ChatGPT.

Scott Tolinski

your your browser sucks or whatever.

Wes Bos

people have the right to be pissed about that. You know? They Sure. Pulled the rug on it, and people But there were If you get really excited about a tool And the other thing is that, like, I have this nice cobalt two blue theme for Raycast,

Scott Tolinski

the code or because Sign up and get two months for free using the coupon code Sanity treat. And guess what? Century is like.

Scott Tolinski

Wes in. She's like, okay. That that makes a lot of sense. So Yeah. Check it out. Check it out. Love this. Love it. I I wore my Syntax hat all day every day in Amsterdam. So or, going into a chat window and cursor and having the MCP servers connect, you can build, like, reusable workflows and things like that. And I found that to be just simply lovely.

Wes Bos

that I know are twenty, thirty gigs, you know, you got two or three of them and, and then like we're downloading, we're streaming ourselves and recording ourselves. That's like, 50 gigs for an hour or whatever.

Scott Tolinski

once it once they have product market fit, as they say, maybe they'll move into something that's a little bit more mobile. Yeah. If If you wanna get more, like, use cases for this thing, their website has a a number of, like, here's all the different things you can do with it that are are currently supported or whatever. But either way, a lot of people were wondering, You can type in something you wanna actually search for,

Wes Bos

OpenAI.

Wes Bos

generator startups,

Scott Tolinski

as far as, like, I'm not doing anything on it. I am like and I have not opened chat g p t since I started using

Wes Bos

for for chat g p t. So, like, you're saving quite a bit.

Wes Bos

macOS is putting that in, though, because, like, it's just And in order to get the, like, face dupe stuff to work,

Scott Tolinski

give it a Scott. Send him more time in dia for that. Yeah.

Wes Bos

And there's not a lot of control in a Raycast theme. So I I switched it to white and black to see if it's a little bit more comfy, but it just feel

Scott Tolinski

we we, just share a chat g p t. I also do pay for Claude,

Wes Bos

I was while while you're doing the intro, I was just trying to adjust my my seat. It was there we go. It was going too far back. I hit the wrong knob, and I just went I went all the way down.

Scott Tolinski

it's a powerful tool to build and deploy AI agents and MCP servers, and it comes batteries included and supports all major LLMs, vector databases, and a growing library of AI tools. This thing is a node based editor. So, Here's actually two camps. People were like, Arc has always sucked, and, Next one here is something that may maybe people have heard of,

Wes Bos

is someone who is generating Yeah. Command dia. And then I was on Deno seek for a while because I felt like, like that

Scott Tolinski

And I was

Wes Bos

tags. There's a spelling mistake on the tag because I forgot to fix it.

Wes Bos

a, like, a floppy

Scott Tolinski

I I highlight some text, ask Diya,

Wes Bos

Century.shop.

Scott Tolinski

text to speech has always been kind of dog shit even if you can type in the middle of it. But I do use it kind of nonstop. I I just wish there were some of these nicer features like, yeah, correcting certain words or Yeah. I don't know. Yeah.

Scott Tolinski

when I go to search and ask it for something like, used Raycast really ever for, five minutes if you want. You can play a whole bunch of rounds. And, that way, you know, if somebody I think that is, like, really pretty neat. And in practice,

Wes Bos

Because it I think it's, like, $8 a month or something like that versus 20

Scott Tolinski

not my the thing I'm most interested in, which is why you got a little chat window, right, an AI chat window. But the demo that he did, I thought Wes really, really interesting why why release a desktop browser as the main interface?

Wes Bos

the thing about like Raycast is it's like power users developers first and like I highly doubt Apple's gonna put out something where you're like there's gonna be these little edge case bugs but let us know if we missed any.

Scott Tolinski

Yeah. I agree.

Wes Bos

And then we also got the

Scott Tolinski

the ability to, like, truly interact with the page is, like have you ever seen one of those images on on, Twitter that's just like, here are the 20,000

Wes Bos

because, a, I really like the memory stuff that it has. So I was trying to translate some that they'll never fix. Yes. They'll never.

Scott Tolinski

of browsers is

Wes Bos

what it is I want. And I think if you are not using

Scott Tolinski

our browser episode about the state of web browsers. And I gotta say, man, people are

Wes Bos

words that you say a lot, and that's huge for people like you and I Wes we're always saying these random made up coding words. Sanity.

Wes Bos

make YouTube thumbnails of myself, and I wanted to feed it a a photo of my face and be able to generate a YouTube thumbnail. And this was before you could do this in JADGPT.

Wes Bos

how to do it, because they're just like, I can't be bothered.

Wes Bos

And we recorded a little episode of, like, his how he uses his computer,

Scott Tolinski

Welcome to Syntax. Today, we're gonna be talking about AI tools that you should Deno. And these AI tools are all kinds of different things, whether that is stuff to help you in your your day to day or Like, if I wanna generate an image of a computer programmer sitting at his desk or whatever, I have to then, like, research Yeah. It's by DataStax.

Wes Bos

lots of content, but they don't necessarily care about how long it takes. So some, like, garbage Etsy seller is making 20,000

Scott Tolinski

and I think it was just so they would have something to do while I was away.

Scott Tolinski

and their voice to speak kind of an educational game, but, man, this thing is the start

Wes Bos

what do you what are you paying for right now, and and what do you I guess you're reaching for Diya right now as your main chat app? Yeah. I'm using Diya as my main chat app, but I do pay for chatGPT, t, especially because that's what Courtney has gotten really used to using.

Wes Bos

image generates? It does say stable diffusion web UI. Yeah. If you've ever used, like, hugging face or anything like that, it's kind of a similar it might even be the same Yeah. Hugging face. Yeah. The same I've downloaded all the models specifically for a lot of the stable diffusion stuff, which is Mhmm. Anybody who has, like, one of these, Then we got the Internet one, which

Scott Tolinski

And instead of maybe writing

Wes Bos

hat that someone embroidered, like, running running local models is is getting better. It is getting faster even, like, in the browser. I had a whole talk on it, especially with Wes GPU now. Yeah. But some of these really big ones are some a bit of a bit of a resource hog. Yeah. For sure. Alongside comfy UI, there's automatic one one one one and forge UI. Those are sort of alternatives as well. Seemingly,

Scott Tolinski

and langflow.org.

Scott Tolinski

this tool, since I got access to the beta, it says dia, d I a, browser, so diabrowser.com.

Scott Tolinski

What about self hosted stuff? I think

Wes Bos

Bos skeevy world. Does a very good job at there's one plug in for it, which JS, like, a face mod, which is you can take people's

Scott Tolinski

past little bit ago.

Scott Tolinski

I said I don't know about you. When I go traveling, it it's hat time for me. Although it it has often been hat time for me very frequently.

Scott Tolinski

this tool really did catch my eye as being a a really interesting tool.

Scott Tolinski

the page of the schedule for JS Nation. Because this is the whole point was about, He connects it to starting to gain traction or anything like that, you'll want to be using Century at century.io.

Scott Tolinski

Dia imported all my ding Arc settings and all my workspaces and all my logins, and, like, next thing you know, it's like, yeah, the UI is different and it's slightly different, but all of the stuff that I've accumulated in Arc is still here. Yeah.

Scott Tolinski

essentially browse AI agents production AI agents. They have their own product and pricing.

Wes Bos

You probably should do this. I was like, oh, man. It it knows that. You know? And I was like, that that's kind of nice.

Scott Tolinski

is probably gonna be needing to work on some new features after, this macOS announcement recently.

Wes Bos

new navigation, I think, is the the way it's listed. That's very very good. It's like it's it's amazing that they can simplify the UI or the the menu so much, but you still get all of the same amount of information in in mind, and especially when you get you spend you spend your time. You invest in a product. You know? Yes. You invest your time. But hooking up one of these tools to a hotkey on your keyboard so that when you wanna type something, you just hit the microphone key or whatever, and you just speak what it is you want. Now these tools, Super Whisper and Whisperflow,

Scott Tolinski

It is just a wonderful tool for solving your problems. We all got problems. I got problems. Wes got problem. I don't know if Wes has any problems, honestly. I got plenty of problems. Okay. Well, we all got problems then. And Sanity is the perfect place to solve those problems because, let's face it, there's too many other problems to deal with to have problems in your code base. And, Sentry gives you tools to solve those problems. They give you tools to have visibility into those problems, whether that is a slow application or a buggy application best through video,

Wes Bos

to go straight to the AI app, but you can also just ask something straight away in the Raycast prompt and hit tab and it will it will fire it off there as well. So

Scott Tolinski

I understand both those.

Wes Bos

everyone who uses a computer should have that kind of productivity.

Scott Tolinski

what time is Shruti's talk at?

Wes Bos

at one time Deno seek was like by far the best and it was free. And, like, it was doing search searching the web the Raycast AI opens in its own, like, window, which is really Node,

Scott Tolinski

You need to stop talking about Sentry now. We love Sentry folks. Sentry actually has some really cool AI tools. We should do an episode on that at some point. The first one I wanna talk about you're you're basically generating node workflows,

Wes Bos

which is kind of a shameless plug as well. But, by the time you're listening to this, you should so we got we got the Syntax one right here. Right? a bit more comfy

Scott Tolinski

why would you ever use something that the browser company made after what they did to you with Arc? They didn't do anything to me with Arc. They made a a a free browser, and you can reference tabs. You can reference other things. You can reference websites. You can, on the fact that they have a good product. They're

Wes Bos

streaming of the text, which Mac OS does. I really like that. As you're talking, you can see what you're saying in real time.

Wes Bos

interface of it as well. But, yeah, if you wanna be able to use Stable Diffusion to make, like, Lego version of yourself or whatever, it's it Wes it it probably not so much anymore, but it was a very good business

Scott Tolinski

the game is called Rat a Tat Scott.

Wes Bos

you have to, like there's a couple hoops you need to to jump through, and they're explicitly they do not host ones that

Scott Tolinski

new features, and the product just rules, man. I I this it's just one of these things that they're not

Wes Bos

All your own API keys. Yeah. Oh, okay. Cool. And it's a it's a Python app that you download as a desktop app.

Wes Bos

for a while. So every now and then, I'll I'll dip into DeepSeek and and see how it JS, but it's it's kinda funny how let me get up here. The one thing that I keep telling myself is, like, don't get

Scott Tolinski

and you might have an output that is a chat output. Right? And you put an AI, model in between there, Yeah. So I I mean, I'm not that mad at it, especially because this browser JS good. If this browser sucked, then maybe, yeah, then maybe I'd be pissed about it. But it's good. So Yeah. You can get it for $12 on Amazon. It's really, really nice.

Scott Tolinski

And he was able to say things like, And if you look at their tools that they connect with, it is just a massive amount of stuff, whether that is, you know, Supabase but that's it.

Wes Bos

often when I'm, like, scrambling to free up space on my computer, I'll just delete those models. And and now that I have super fast Internet, I don't mind having to redownload them.

Scott Tolinski

quick enough where you can rattle off a game in about,

Wes Bos

Yeah. So this is just the tool itself that you can download and use on your own. Oh, so there's no there's not a subscription fee here because it's you're simply just connecting things

Scott Tolinski

or a chat window, as in it can be both of them at the same time. So by default, Yeah. It's it's really great.

Scott Tolinski

blah blah blah. And you could build these little widgets and little tools with your own API keys is either a search window like, instead of you and I will say this. I've been using this now for, like, a week, new AI tools, and you're just like, I don't have time to look at all these. So Hate those guys. Yeah. No. These these are ones that you probably wanna check out, or maybe they haven't, or maybe, they're very bitter about this. Because let me tell you, we just released our browser

Wes Bos

headshot

Scott Tolinski

And it's

Wes Bos

they they you know how I, like, kinda stuttered there? MacOS would just literally take every single word that I have and put it in there, and I have to then take it out. These

Scott Tolinski

and that would be

Wes Bos

it doesn't make sense because you can it's way cheaper to to pay for Raycast.

Wes Bos

says it has an iOS a point where I'm gonna cancel MidJourney because ChargeBT is is just good enough. And the other thing about the Raycast to be able to run this stuff at any thing. So, yeah, give give Langflow a check. I think this Wes pretty neat. Next one I have is I was working with John Wes, who is really into a lot of this AI stuff. He's obviously the guy that started, Egghead.

Scott Tolinski

So check it out at century.i0/syntax.

Wes Bos

rather than the chat just give you some external links that you can click off to stream the output,

Scott Tolinski

I I you know, Century's always just been a tool that's evolving, but, man, they're going through some

Wes Bos

when you he said he's speaking at that conference, I was like, that's for sure remote. There's no chance he's gonna do a face reveal, but he did.

Wes Bos

dead click t shirt yesterday. Yeah. And my daughter was asking what a dead click was, and I was like, well, you know, on your iPad, when you you click on something and it doesn't nothing happens

Scott Tolinski

how I work My name is Scott.

Scott Tolinski

I am like, let's give this a rip to see how the hell this thing works. Alright. I I got it to I got it to produce this. Okay. And then that's it pretty much for me.

Scott Tolinski

So the sidebar navigation, I believe, will be coming back for people who are bitter and upset about that. Two, I think there's one major feature that I would love to see from this that does not exist, if you've used any other node based editors, Comfy UI is a node based editor, DaVinci Fusion, node based editor, Max MSP. Basically, you have Bos, and you're connecting, what it does in,

Wes Bos

I have only dipped into automatic one one one one and Comfy UI. So I'm gonna have to give these other ones a a good shake as well. Is this automatic primarily based around Very cool stuff. What's the idea? Is this there's a company behind this? Because I went to, like, download it. I tried to check this out a while ago, and it it, like, makes you put in the email address. And I immediately was like, oh, this is some corporal BS. I don't know what to do with that.

Scott Tolinski

give it a rip.

Wes Bos

like, self hosted

Scott Tolinski

Yeah. They're just, like, enhancing. Yeah. Definitely Raycast ish.

Wes Bos

tumblers of, like Mhmm. Whales shaking hands with bears that say dads are the best if their name is Bert. You know? And then they'll

Scott Tolinski

with something like Like like a bit of memory. T p t Yeah. And then being able to reference tabs.

Scott Tolinski

when you go to open a new tab, in your browser.

Scott Tolinski

So if I ask that question to Dia, Dia JS going to give me links, but it's also going to give me YouTube videos directly in those results that are directly related to the thing that I'm asking about. So it's kind of like a mishmash of perplexity

Wes Bos

behind the scenes. Yeah. It's a Company UI, no. But, like like, we're

Scott Tolinski

possibly even some coding stuff, but just really possibly is one that I wasn't even aware of until

Wes Bos

to

Scott Tolinski

via the chat window. Let's say I have a spreadsheet. I would love to be able to say, make these modifications to the spreadsheet and have data do it, which you can't do right now. I I do think that is something that they are working on, but I don't know for sure. Yeah. What does it do? It's just a chat app So there's a lot of little features that I haven't necessarily you know, these interfaces, with new UIs,

Wes Bos

that as you're talking, you can just like stop talking and then you can you can type stuff, move your cursor around and then continue talking. Like it's not like you're in dictation mode or out of it, it's kind of fluid.

Wes Bos

fire up these, like, turn your child's photos into a coloring book Yeah. Yeah. For for $6 or things like that. There was or or headshots or all of these different things, you know, touch

Scott Tolinski

like, cannot stop playing this game. She wants to play it every night, and it's

Wes Bos

thing

Scott Tolinski

even just reading their tagline,

Wes Bos

So I'm a big fan of the macOS one, but I these apps will probably get Sherlock at some point via macOS just implementing this Let's talk about, like,

Scott Tolinski

Yeah. Cool. Well, that's all I got. Folks, what kind of AI tools are you out there using that we didn't mention, coding or otherwise? I know we just did a coding tool, a coding, agent show and stuff. So but I wanna know what kind of stuff specifically you were using because let's face it. This of the cool things is that there is a, like, a default profile for you.

Wes Bos

use like

Scott Tolinski

let's say, a question about a video game,

Wes Bos

just using ChatGPT, and they don't really know Node much more.

Scott Tolinski

I do think that the image generation stuff is probably, like, the least exciting thing for me because it does it creeps me out, like, the Joshua Lochner at Oh, yeah. Nation.

Scott Tolinski

an agent, and then he connects it to, I believe, an MCP server to integrate with

Wes Bos

after a little while, she's like, yeah. I hate that. I'm like, that's a dead click. And then I was, like, trying to explain that there's also rage clicks when you tap it multiple times. And she's like, oh. I'm like, the Sentry will fix that or at least show you what happened, as you're talking. You don't have to wait for it to to be finished.

Wes Bos

to browse the web

Scott Tolinski

I would imagine that would cause my entire computer to blow up. Yeah. You gotta have a serious, serious machine ask Diya about this, and then the Diya will will go off. And it can do more research, and it can find additional links. And,

Wes Bos

before being like, ah, that doesn't seem that useful.

Wes Bos

currently sold out,

Scott Tolinski

And

Wes Bos

Oh, yeah. Because macOS announced,

Scott Tolinski

And it is

Wes Bos

and then, like, they will will do anything bad around adult stuff or child stuff and and whatnot, which is is good. Yeah. I know that that that a whole thing can be good. Yeah.

Wes Bos

And I just took a screenshot of it, and I was like, what should I do? And it's like, you're Yeah. Excited to talk about the the different AI tools that we're we're using right now. I think, like, the one Yeah. And a lot of people would be like, I wanna do that. I want I see I see that that JS much faster, you Node, rather than telling people What a just wonderful dude. He had a a great talk and just a super cool guy. So I got to interview him on stage even. Oh, really? He's the author of transformers JS, which allows you to run local AI models in JavaScript, so in the browser or a node, things like that. And, yeah, he sent me a he sent me a photo of you guys, and I was like, woah. Face reveal. Because, like, when he came on the pod when he came on the podcast, he was not comfortable even showing his face. I'm like,

Scott Tolinski

the text to speech is so baked into the OS. Whisperflow Yeah. Browser company has hands, for sure.

Scott Tolinski

It's an early access for Yarn member. So if you've used ARC in the past, you can just download it and, because, specifically, they have a desktop app now, which, man, running the Python thing was really tough for that. You know, Comfy UI is interesting because you the

Wes Bos

So I

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