about 1 year ago Syntax Podcast
I got fired, what should I focus on?
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Scott Tolinski
I I do think learning React, you know, React Native, that those are are great things to to hang your hat on.
Scott Tolinski
that you are on a path of having to do it outside of your nine to five.
Wes Bos
a pretty good developer as well already. And when it does come time to having to pick up this new stuff,
Scott Tolinski
started checking it out and was like,
Wes Bos
But maybe I I have I carry a knife on me all the time too. Yeah. But I, like, cut myself many times. Knife. It's so much easier. Yeah. And I will say, like, we have two cardboard bins. They and we still fill them up like crazy because whether that's, like, paper bags and, you know, practical ah, But when it's done, it's amazing. Tent. Right? Yeah.
Scott Tolinski
how the CMS looks, but, just a tremendous amount of personal growth from that.
Scott Tolinski
Light Dome, and it is the I I think yes.
Wes Bos
a lot of these platform as a services,
Scott Tolinski
make make stuff. Because
Wes Bos
We probably, like, probably around 2019, Any recommendations of what to see or do when I'm in town?
Guest 2
called the same composable, like use geolocation,
Scott Tolinski
Obviously,
Wes Bos
the industry moves so fast.
Scott Tolinski
maintainability Microphone, it's a ElectroVoice
Wes Bos
And every now and then, I'm like,
Scott Tolinski
I love your show, especially when you get excited about the topic you are discussing.
Wes Bos
Node where I'm like, what the hell JS Umbraco? you should constantly be looking at what is the the latest and greatest. What are these things that can help us build better, faster
Scott Tolinski
like a small app every single day, because you getting your hands dirty in some real code is going to really take you a lot further than opening up your books and starting to study. Now Yeah. I think in this new world as well, like, really studio feel. And then this is the other harsh LED light. You can see,
Wes Bos
right now? Because cut it up with a knife, we simply just have probably six or seven pairs of
Scott Tolinski
my skill set. Yeah. This one, the direction
Wes Bos
That's right. Yeah. I'm gonna sick pick another thing for cutting, which is just scissors. We do a lot of, like, prep meal prep for our kids, obviously, then you're, oh, man. My skill set is kind of kinda out of luck. So your your approach here is, first of all, try and
Scott Tolinski
I printed out last night a Gridfinity we have competing Yeah. Okay. I was never given the opportunity to learn and implement new tech, upgrade
Wes Bos
that
Scott Tolinski
was just how can I shove
Wes Bos
just an absolute blast. So check those out. And CJ has, like, a bot or something where he everybody comments, CJ did the best job. No
Scott Tolinski
Of course, I do. Okay. I live in Colorado. I know what Rocky Mountain oysters are. They are, bull testicles for anyone who hasn't heard of that.
Guest 2
I have an answer for this. Yeah. So, like Wes mentioned, Pnpm is a global state management.
Scott Tolinski
If you go into an interview and you're up against somebody who is very skilled with all of the latest AI tools or perhaps is, like, on the bleeding edge of that stuff, and you're like, I don't know. I just write it all by hand. They're gonna get the job. You you're saying like like like a cursor Tolinski learning AI tools on your own. Because I think you probably So I I think if you can get into the more deeply technical aspects of machine learning,
Wes Bos
self hosting reverse proxy servers. So what we did is we discussed
Guest 2
are created for each time you call them. So it's a new instance each time it's called. So if two different components
Scott Tolinski
Sushi Den or Uchi.
Scott Tolinski
So And it's
Wes Bos
Search Syntax, being able to use those effectively?
Scott Tolinski
really, really interesting kind of, like, blend of of various actually work, whether that is performing quickly, loading fast,
Wes Bos
drawer, and then things won't slide around or ever. So I redid our whole utensil drawer, Amazing.
Wes Bos
I do find that the snake case is easier to read personally.
Scott Tolinski
for my job? So that way, if my boss is like,
Wes Bos
that we all are given not only using AI to code, but building stuff with AI. So
Scott Tolinski
just YOLOing,
Wes Bos
That's awesome. I I I've actually thought about that as well. My approach to the cardboard is simply GitHub repos that are not packages, but they're they're GitHub repos of leave off pixels if if for some
Scott Tolinski
what, like, is an effective use of those Vercel Yeah. Like, oh, I just paste my code into chat g p t and then whatever, or I don't use anything at all. I I do think being like, I use this tool for these reasons, and it helps me because of this way, and I'm a faster developer for it JS, like, a much better thing to bring to the table than again, makes all the difference in the world.
Wes Bos
So
Scott Tolinski
you can get, on them, so no one's gonna take these scissors. They're mine. Too.
Wes Bos
to effectively bad code is gonna come out, and it's gonna be unmaintainable
Scott Tolinski
quick things that we're all gonna be doing and,
Wes Bos
Uh-huh.
Scott Tolinski
I don't need that in my life. I'm gonna just say that. Say I've I've partaked before, but,
Wes Bos
and are like, CJ did the best job.
Wes Bos
we we have a you wanna have a single domain name like syntax.fm,
Scott Tolinski
highly used big apps with React. So, you know, you can have I thought you didn't like React because of, like, Mark Zuckerberg and, like,
Wes Bos
Welcome to Syntax. Today, we got a potluck episode for you, which is you bring the questions, we bring the answers. Please keep the questions coming. Go to syntax.fm.
Guest 2
Some examples of some composables are things like a custom
Scott Tolinski
tea bag,
Wes Bos
know.
Wes Bos
I'm going to capture admin forward slash whatever, and I'm gonna just pipe that straight into figure out, like, a middle out algorithm of how to, like, most appropriately do something like that. So if you're asking me, I would not go get a
Scott Tolinski
good for people with a deeper voice.
Scott Tolinski
I think the biggest problem that you have is that everything in JavaScript ends up being camel case. All the AIs wanna write camel case all the time. But Currently, I have several years experience as a full stack developer working on enterprise level applications that are built in Drupal WordPress or a microservice architecture with Next. Js and React. I feel confident
Wes Bos
every single time you choose something a little bit different. You know? Use Tailwind in one project. Use,
Scott Tolinski
I I Wes you would call this a key light LED panel because it's kinda harsh, but I'm not since I have white walls, I'm mostly just bouncing off the wall to get, like, a full fill. It's a fairly harsh bright LED light. But the star of the show, which is
Wes Bos
will then route that traffic uncomfortable or a 21% I, I don't want it to get messed up.
Wes Bos
snake case was the move
Scott Tolinski
I don't
Guest 2
and, essentially, it allows you to create a state value that can be shared across your application. And so this might be where some of the confusion's coming into play because you could create a composable that uses the use state function, and now you have a state variable that that technically is the same throughout your application.
Scott Tolinski
topics there that if you were to Oh,
Wes Bos
and we are big kitchen scissors family. Instead of having to get a cutting board out and
Scott Tolinski
many years just by being, like a business owner working on Vercel up tutorials.
Wes Bos
things? Right? If you for whatever reason, you simply cannot do that because the tech stack of whatever app you're working on is pretty set in stone, then you're gonna need some sort of either side project or little things that you can do. And being able to start and finish and just dust your hands off of a project, I think, is is the way forward. A lot of people say, like, have, like, a little passion project where you're working on it for, like, eight years or whatever. And A lot of people like that, but for me, it's like, I Scott, like, I'm gonna start something. I'm gonna build something that I want, and I'm gonna learn a whole bunch along the way, and then I'm going to be done that thing. You might wanna come back to it at another point and update it, but being able to simply
Scott Tolinski
of React deeply, I don't necessarily think a degree is a bad idea for machine learning because there's so much there, and it's such a deep well of, like, deep technical,
Wes Bos
this, like, the proof is in the pudding with this career. Right? You can also just, like, build a whole bunch of shit and learn a whole bunch of stuff and build and get really good at it, and you can have a really good career.
Scott Tolinski
RE.
Scott Tolinski
series cameras Yarn just really great for this type of thing. I am currently using a Sony FX three, which is a cinema camera
Wes Bos
I got, I don't know, maybe four or five of those. And, generally, what happens is
Scott Tolinski
man, somebody's gotta build the AI. Yeah. You know? Yeah.
Wes Bos
That's awesome.
Wes Bos
That would be that would be pretty fun. Alright. Thank you, Bobby Tables. We like that one. Al asks, be able to say, I don't know, but I can figure it out. Like, there's a certain point in your career where you realize APIs, building a little chat for Vercel.
Scott Tolinski
my webcam here. But this is like really nice redesign. So everything is really reorganized in a a main new navigation now that's super good. And you even get logging now, code coverage, those types of things. So check it out at century.i0/syntax.
Scott Tolinski
and then work on tools
Wes Bos
uncomfortable with where you're at. And if you don't feel uncomfortable
Scott Tolinski
and, therefore, the entire function runs every single time something changes. Like, I like when here in the world of 2025 Me, personally, I lose track of what I'm doing with that. No. I can't do it either. So then I have to do all the removal of white space at the end. I would be in favor of this, but I don't know. I think the the chaos of trying to remove the white space at the end is is part of what makes it fun too. I think what would be a fun project is if we could build our own
Wes Bos
that, like and the kids take them away and oh, man.
Wes Bos
and then you print out
Scott Tolinski
Yeah. Once it's done, it's amazing. I will say that, but get ready for some tension rods. I had to Why do they have, like, one that blows up? You know they have tents now that you can pump them up, to something. So I was thinking, I cannot have a light.
Wes Bos
optimizing your resume, but you're also just showing that you know what you're talking about. And then the final thing I'll say here is that
Scott Tolinski
I'm using an Aputure
Guest 2
They have a bunch of reusable composables, but if you're trying to wrap your mind around, like, what is a composable or why I might write one, they have a they have a ton of examples there. But I would say that the TLDR is if you have an application that's, like, moderately complex,
Wes Bos
Oh, yeah. We both got to pick. These are these are technically chicken scissor or chicken kitchen scissors, but They look like it. I don't know why they're in my office.
Scott Tolinski
this, like, big old I'm looking for advice on what to do next, especially because I'd like to share ownership to ensure its continued maintenance.
Wes Bos
It's no fun. People that write that stuff are It's no fun. Are really good at it. I've had to do with that a couple times, and then I also wrote a, as much as, like, people listening are probably being like, no.
Wes Bos
getting be getting paid for this. They're gonna find me out. And I think a lot of people in our industry have this. In fact, I think what what does, like, all the CSS next stuff use?
Scott Tolinski
Yeah. I think it is, like, clinically, really getting those Sanity tuned skills of fixing your shit. I'm talking about Century at century dot I o forward slash syntax.
Scott Tolinski
If you're looking for a few dollar signs, This light rules. It is not cheap. It's $350.
Scott Tolinski
Shrug. You know? Yeah. So with the same CSS?
Wes Bos
what skills to focus on right now. A couple of people said they just lost their job, and they're not sure what to focus on, how to skill up, how to catch up to what's going Node, dealing with imposter syndrome, and a bunch of questions around
Scott Tolinski
I had a sick pick, and this is something you see I don't know if you see this on TikTok shops or whatever.
Scott Tolinski
I've already used this thing $35
Guest 2
bit of state or something used across a lot of components, Penia is just gonna be a whole lot easier. So simple answer is is just use Penia. And the way to think about the differences here are composables
Scott Tolinski
is a Yeah. Pain in the ass to set up.
Scott Tolinski
sure, you're gonna wanna study That doesn't sound like a lot of fun.
Wes Bos
looks nice. I think it's better than like, what's the other one that .net does? SharePoint. That's the one that Share. That everyone SharePoint's not really like a like a proper CMS, but it kinda is. It's it's its own beast.
Scott Tolinski
Well, thank you, Redliz.
Scott Tolinski
weekly downloads. That's a lot of downloads.
Scott Tolinski
Because I know as somebody you know, I I worked outside of my nine to five for
Wes Bos
with any aspect
Scott Tolinski
If you're looking for, like, a good middle ground place to eat, worth of time. Like, this thing has already saved me so much time. So for a little $35 of the educational system, just like picking it up on your own. But I do think there is a lot of big
Wes Bos
or Copilot,
Scott Tolinski
man, that's a good feeling. And as far as, have I ever had imposter syndrome? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Totally.
Scott Tolinski
Wes, and myself
Wes Bos
He wants to be Syntax ESLint to count the people in a photo.
Wes Bos
Traffic. T r Traffic. Yes. That's the default one. Yeah. Yes. So, basically, you write these config files for your reverse proxy,
Scott Tolinski
values update and those values update rather than a function running. I also
Guest 2
Essentially, you can have state that you use throughout your application.
Wes Bos
a code mod recently, asks,
Scott Tolinski
Again, like I said, in any job that I Scott, that was, like, a big step up from where I currently was. And within three months, whatever, you're then at that level. Next thing you know, Man, tension rods,
Wes Bos
what I have already covered. And I feel like I'm never getting anywhere, and I'm guilty of getting stuck in tutorial heal. Probably meant tutorial hell there.
Scott Tolinski
Shameless plugs.
Scott Tolinski
Oh, I'm doing good, man. Just hanging out. We got a cold one here in Colorado. It is, like, 50 and rainy. It's our kids' last day of Scott. So, of course, like, last day of school vibes is just raining and cold.
Scott Tolinski
makes such a tremendous difference. And I can even show you. I used to have a harsh LED light right here, and that was What would you that would be we could put somebody on that. Can can we get an intern?
Wes Bos
What can and should a reverse proxy do for me? I was thinking about getting setting up a small tutorial repo for others to use with a small project to teach yourself some of these there's no chance that you're gonna know everything, but you get to a point where you realize I probably can figure that out given enough
Scott Tolinski
Yes. Yeah. Totally.
Wes Bos
constant progression and growth. Mhmm. We we've said in the past, like, you should be,
Scott Tolinski
And
Wes Bos
and I made a couple custom models for the, like, Asian spoon and one knife holder, and then I printed out just a bunch of, like, proper sized boxes for things like our scissors. And it's, like, game changer. So good. Makes me so happy.
Scott Tolinski
is going to be a job differentiator.
Wes Bos
space for the last nine years. I have predominantly been working on WordPress designing and building bespoke
Scott Tolinski
the type of
Wes Bos
and then we all have to try and build the smallest minifier
Scott Tolinski
Yeah. Right.
Scott Tolinski
and competent at my job. Yet I'm finding it difficult to get promoted or get another job, and I'm also afraid of being replaced by AI.
Scott Tolinski
for me is, like, always especially when I was at my full time job working in an agency,
Wes Bos
I I use it for, like, the the splurge stuff. You know? Or, like, I I think, like, those are the skills that are are gonna be needed. Right? Like, deep math, algorithms, that's a really good point. I think, also, But no. I thought it was it was great. There's, like, this thing where I would you just think AI can do anything. So there I took a photo of us sitting up on stage, and I took a pan of the crowd. I was like, how many people? I was like, well, you just throw it into ChattGPT, and they'll tell you how many. So I uploaded it to ChattGPT, and they said there was three people in the crowd.
Wes Bos
using scissors in the kitchen.
Wes Bos
applications.
Scott Tolinski
don't like how there's a virtual DOM. I I get that there's a virtual DOM. I got a real DOM. Up DOM is what you are. Give me give me the DOM. Yes. Yeah. Alright. Yeah. Give me that DOM. That's all I want. Alright. Alright. Next
Wes Bos
you need like, not only are you, like, keyword
Scott Tolinski
for, an opinion on on Tailwind. Right? I I've made that clear
Wes Bos
I don't wanna spend real money on this, but I'll put my Bezos bucks towards this.
Scott Tolinski
on And this one is Canada. We are free from the capitalism that is the TikTok shop. I honestly don't know if this is a TikTok shop item, but it seems like it could be. I got a
Wes Bos
the person hiring you doesn't necessarily care about that. What they they care about is that, a, you understand how the code works, and and, b, you're able to use these tools
Scott Tolinski
Or or anything. Like, I peep people come at me about my React opinions now because I don't use React. But I used React for, like, ten years. Like, it's not like I I have no experience there. I've built several it used acoustically
Wes Bos
crazy on that one. I think more people need to do that. It's just throw a little donation on there. And even if you're getting, I don't know, 50, a $100 a month In the top corner, you click on potluck. You submit your question about anything you want us to answer, and we'll answer it on an upcoming episode.
Wes Bos
to be scaling up on stuff that is very hirable right now. So Scott says, of course, React React Native, those are very hirable as well.
Wes Bos
what a reverse proxy is when you're when you have your own server.
Scott Tolinski
Braco being aggressive to him and on him. Yes. Rip it on him. We love CJ though, though. Alright. That's it for today. Peace.
Wes Bos
you you work on the same tech stack all day long, and you never
Scott Tolinski
one fifty c.
Scott Tolinski
Just make sure that that's visible that you're looking for
Guest 2
But it gets a little bit cumbersome if you're the the moment your store starts to get get a little bit bigger. So I would say, well, if you if you've installed Pina, just just start using it because it's the way to go.
Scott Tolinski
like, the new norm already.
Scott Tolinski
could you remove the white space and new lines after the time limit? You could all use the same tool to make it fair. This way, it would be simpler for us to follow. Cheers. Bobby, I don't mind this idea personally because oftentimes,
Wes Bos
are what we use to to build AI. You Node? It's one thing to ping the open a OpenAI API and put a clever little prompt in there and and parse the JSON that comes back, but it's it's another one to be able to, like,
Scott Tolinski
The the people because of, a lot of because of JS, I don't really like how
Wes Bos
skills right now.
Guest 2
But the moment you need a larger
Scott Tolinski
in your day job Bos that way you aren't it's a Netflix approved cinema camera, and, and that's It's like $4 if you It's crazy to have that. Yeah. Yeah. As your webcam. Wes is using the same camera Being able to use them effectively.
Wes Bos
Example, export, of the property. You Node, there's all those little tricks.
Guest 2
Some good examples of these are at viewuse.org.
Scott Tolinski
Yeah. You know, it was a good turnout. I would love to see what the final numbers are on that thing.
Scott Tolinski
Check this out.
Scott Tolinski
as opposed to some packages have done really well yep, I I think this light right here is the star of the show. I I do have some LED, like, some cheapo LED things to give some color behind me. You may or may not see it, but this big old softbox
Wes Bos
will take in every incoming request, still significant. And, like, that stuff can pay for, like, a laptop or whatever, and you don't necessarily feel like you're you're getting burned when you're like, oh, I just work on this thing that I I love to do, and it actually starts you get a couple little benefits from it here and there. Yeah. Word. Ryan says, hey, Wes and Scott. The most irrelevant And they're gonna wanna hire somebody that actually knows what they're talking about with these things. So I think that React and AI, as much as you may hate both of those things,
Scott Tolinski
hey. What are you working on? Why isn't it relevant? You can always be like, well, I built a tool for myself. Like, I built our team a production checklist because I wanted to learn Angular and, local storage, saving stuff locally.
Scott Tolinski
regional world foods and stuff like that. It's it's fantastic.
Wes Bos
having it custom fit for your home is the ultimate flex. You know? There's nothing more
Scott Tolinski
You could see, like, when I look at the light or when I look at this light, they end up in my glasses. So I have to have this one way over here, and I have to have this one way over here. And I finish the darn thing and I run out of time to minimize it all. But, also, at AI tools on the job. Have you heard of umbraco? I've spent the last three years working for a company that used
Wes Bos
and watch one of our videos because they're absolutely hilarious.
Wes Bos
later. Thank you.
Scott Tolinski
That sucks. But it's all good, man. It's all good. Yeah. Chilling. I'm going to Amsterdam next week for the people that, But, again, we do this professionally, so gotta have a professional lighting setup. This is on the cheaper end of fancy lights like this even though it is extremely high quality.
Wes Bos
you kinda are in the spot where to know that everybody has it and that you can that a reverse proxy is certainly something you're going to need to figure out. Word.
Scott Tolinski
more difficult than what you will have is that I wear glasses, Yeah. I know.
Scott Tolinski
man, just look up any of the top restaurants in Denver because the the fancy stuff is is fantastic.
Wes Bos
that's
Scott Tolinski
Scott's beautiful lighting setup. So let's get on into it. Speaking of imposter syndrome, I get imposter syndrome every single time I look at,
Wes Bos
things work is that you you parse out your code into what's called an AST, an abstract syntax tree, and then you you write these walkers that walk through the code base, and then
Scott Tolinski
jump on it until it all fits in. Breaking down the the delivery cardboard is like a full time job. It's it JS in in your yeah. Your hands get all dry and stuff from it. So
Wes Bos
where
Scott Tolinski
being good in with the natural landscape. But you'll see people working out there, like, twenty four seven. People are running up the stairs. People are, you know, doing yoga or put it's just a beautiful landscape. So if you can get out to Red Rocks, do that. Yeah. A lot of cool stuff around around Denver.
Wes Bos
it sucks.
Scott Tolinski
my new light, which I've only had for if you've noticed a change in my setup at all, Vercel like, we've had this comment, like, probably 10 times since you've put this light on. So it's everybody's noticing.
Wes Bos
like, your your professional career, but, like, other things in your life. If you're not uncomfortable with those things,
Scott Tolinski
I have dyslexia.
Wes Bos
the Node, and
Scott Tolinski
I I think you gotta bring those those cutting edge AI skills. That's a really good point because, Word.
Wes Bos
What you wanna do, likely, is
Scott Tolinski
with AI,
Wes Bos
probably a good idea.
Scott Tolinski
versions of several different mini libraries because our cardboard day all LED panels. There's one right here, and there's one right here JS a backlight. So I have a backlight LED panel. I have a, one thing that I I I haven't done personally, but I do think there Yarn some good practices in general, especially for maintenance long term. The thing you need to think about with maintenance long term is that, hopefully, your package doesn't require
Wes Bos
Maybe you're running a web server that serves up a a front end front end. Maybe you have, like, like, a database. Maybe you have an API server that's running, or maybe you just have literally 20 WordPress installs running
Scott Tolinski
in the long run.
Scott Tolinski
And,
Wes Bos
My wife is just like, I I'm happy that you're happy, but, like, it wasn't a problem before. I'm like, are you kidding? This was a major problem in our house.
Scott Tolinski
is Yeah. It looks they have a nice looking website. I have no idea
Wes Bos
coding challenge or Syntax
Scott Tolinski
thank you to everybody who came out. It was a great time. We did coding gate. We did some CSS battles on stage,
Wes Bos
you don't feel like you have the skill to do something.
Wes Bos
Yes. That's right. Next question we have here from Max. Hi, Syntax crew and Coding Garden. I have been trying out Nuxt inspired by CJ's mammoth tutorial and loving it. So CJ dropped a massive tutorial on Nuxt to on our YouTube channel. One thing I still haven't totally grasped is when I would reach for pina? How do you say it, Scott? Penia.
Scott Tolinski
And, also, when you write the code, it's harder to read if it it, you know, by default. Like, CJ just writes this in a giant block, which, that's amazing. I I lose super track of some of the
Guest 2
a comp composable called use debounce Wes you have all the code that can debounce a value or something like use geolocation Wes you have a bunch of logic that gets the user's location, but then it makes it really easy in any component because you can say, like, use geolocation.
Wes Bos
and then leave off the last semicolon
Scott Tolinski
where we had to switch. We were all working on one computer. We were switching every sixty seconds. It was a riot. And then we had a a great after Sanity at at Wincoop Brewery, and a ton of people showed up, and it was just a lot of fun. Whole thing was great. So shout out to anybody who decided to make the trip out. Some people came from far away, like California.
Wes Bos
you just have to learn React, and you can get a really well paying job. But I I think that those days are probably Yeah. You never never want anyone to find out about those things. First, like, at our college as well, we're the only people that have a mailbox. Everybody else has to walk to the end of the street and use the community mailbox, which is, like, this, like, grid of them, and you have a key. I don't know what happened, but we have a mailbox, and
Scott Tolinski
I will tell you, the softbox Yeah.
Wes Bos
So you have a Vercel. Maybe you're running a Node application.
Wes Bos
of where you're at in life, not just, like, your code, because we're allowed unlimited recycling here. Oh. Because I just, like, I hate breaking down the cardboard. That's it's such a huge thing.
Scott Tolinski
career longevity
Guest 2
Yarn, like, reusable hooks in React. They can have their own internal state and kind of, like, encapsulate functionality.
Scott Tolinski
I don't know if that's a word, easier to read. There is a study done with eye tracking that determined it was easier to read.
Wes Bos
I I can't possibly be doing some other CSS thing in another project. Use Veed in one project. You know? Maybe try the new roll down so that when it comes time to talking about it, what is the streaming gear Scott is using for camera, mic, lights? The audio visual quality is amazing, and I'd love to know how to reproduce it. Yeah. Scott has I was in his office last week. Quite the setup.
Wes Bos
I think maybe led by Rich Harris of Svelte JS.
Scott Tolinski
holder. So
Wes Bos
I don't know, probably ten years, that
Scott Tolinski
It is huge, but, like, you have these, like, tension rods that you all have to do.
Wes Bos
you can go it'll it'll be like, variable declaration or on JavaScript. It'll be like default export,
Scott Tolinski
the guy was here, and he was like, hey. Just so you know, I stole you a second cardboard bin, and nobody knows about it. And so they're not gonna take it away. But at this one, this other one, this one's yours too. And I was like, oh, my man. Setting me up. Yes. Everybody else has got one, and I got two.
Scott Tolinski
Denver has a lot of low key good restaurants.
Wes Bos
of family and work is generally late at night. So my progression in learning is frustratingly slow, and I often find myself having to go back and restart I was listening to episode and and be able to move faster and and crank out more code. Right? Like, the Rocky Mountain oysters. Where do you where's your favorite spot to get those? I've never had Rocky Mountain oysters.
Scott Tolinski
Sign up using the coupon code Sanity treat, all lowercase, all one warp, and get two months for free.
Wes Bos
question for Scott. I'm traveling to Denver at at the July for Laracon. Yeah. We heard a lot of people are heading out to Denver for Laracon.
Scott Tolinski
a handle. You squeeze it, the blade spins, and you go, No. I I think there are good spots to get them, though. Yeah. I know. I've never had them. For me, it's like, And my wife was like, can we stop at little man on the way there? Which was not on the way, mind you. It it was out of the way, and we had to go wait in the line for it. And so, that's a great place to go. It's just fantastic. If you do have means of transportation, stopped relying on a bunch of external packages for things that may change their versions, that may update, that may go out of just out of sync in general. So, like Mhmm. Really relying on less external dependencies to me feels like a good move for me, I prefer snake case.
Scott Tolinski
even as far as, like, having an opinion They do a great job there. And while you're at Linger, This is way easier to read for me. So,
Wes Bos
somebody that either is is interested in the project or somebody that relies on that package for their job is going to sort of, like, latch on and and start submitting issues, maybe submitting pull requests.
Wes Bos
And,
Scott Tolinski
that one is filling I don't like them. My trampoline doesn't have springs. It has tension rods that are, like Oh, yeah.
Scott Tolinski
this new upskill I would highly recommend going out to Red Rocks, not for a concert or anything, but it's just people might not know this, but it's just open during the day. And Red Rocks, the the park and amphitheater JS, like, the coolest dang thing. And you can just show up there anytime,
Wes Bos
literally any bins or holders or whatever, and you can make your own. And then it will Scott into the the grid that is in your
Scott Tolinski
Hey, guys. Love the CSS battles, and I love the hacks you all have to be as concise as possible. But one suggestion,
Guest 2
And, technically, you could do some things where they share state, but think of them as, like, one off uses, whereas Deno is a singleton. Right? You have one Pena instance, and then it's that same instance throughout your application. Yeah. Yeah. You have that in in React land as well where, like, yeah, each time you create a component, that component has its own state, and it's it's fairly encapsulated to that component unless
Wes Bos
the, like, tree syntax AST walkers
Scott Tolinski
Also,
Wes Bos
Yeah. Are you you a scissors kitchen kinda guy? We got kitchen scissors. We got kitchen scissors specifically. Yeah. They, they Well, I have some that can cut through chicken bowls or chicken bones or whatever, but, like, those are are decent, but they're so big. And, like, we just ordered a, like, a a 12 pack of just the regular walk through my code base and and modify it. And
Scott Tolinski
Fideli.
Scott Tolinski
Found your podcast back in 2019.
Wes Bos
properties. Because, like, the stuff we use, which is, like,
Scott Tolinski
really dive deep into them,
Wes Bos
Everything in my my house is Gridfinity. Deno. I did the whole utensil utensil drawer. So anyone doesn't know, Gridfinity JS, basically, you print this track for, like, a drawer,
Scott Tolinski
have always come from because,
Guest 2
and that is global for your entire app. Exact. And and I think one thing I'll add to that is Nuxt does have this composable called use Scott,
Scott Tolinski
It is it you know what? I will say, CJ, any of our code bases to the latest version of Umbraco, or even update something as small as Bootstrap.
Scott Tolinski
So for me, camel case, everything just kind of jumbles together. But when you have snake case, there is a clear delineation sick picks.
Wes Bos
Rand mom says, hi, Scott and Wes.
Wes Bos
Anytime I've had a either a package or I have several, like,
Scott Tolinski
in various either CSS or JavaScript competitions that have some rules, cardboard cutter,
Wes Bos
and then you wanna put each of those applications at, like, a forward slash, you know, forward slash API, forward slash admin,
Scott Tolinski
a blade and
Wes Bos
whether it's HTTP, whether it's WebSocket Wes, you know, whether it's, like, TCP traffic.
Wes Bos
basically, the way that these syntax
Scott Tolinski
AI just is going to assume that you're writing React every single time. So, like, having a good understanding
Wes Bos
And, like, someone's gotta build a a little minifier that takes all those hacks into account. Right? like, Caddy Server is is one that I use all the time. NGINX is another really good one as well. Mhmm. What's the other one that they have in Coolify? They have Caddy Server and depending on your rules
Scott Tolinski
He goes down.
Scott Tolinski
So it it which is it's wild because it is. You Node, I've been using the same camera and the same stuff for a little bit. This is a I use a a light dome from Aputure Man, that takes a toll on you. It takes a toll on your family. It takes a toll on everybody. So, if you can find a way to shove this stuff into your nine to five, do that as much as possible. And I also think, like, Yeah. And you know what can, help you get past that? Not only get past that in terms of, like, feeling like you got a handle on things, but also
Wes Bos
you can say, yes. I've I've used all these things. I've I've played with this. I dipped into it. So it shows that you have
Scott Tolinski
For fiberglass tension rods, and that sucked. I will tell you that. I had a bruise on my palm from sending that thing up. And this thing, I'm just like, but
Wes Bos
Flew and drove from Utah. Yeah. Amazing. Yeah. It's amazing. Let us know where you want us to do the next one because, we're already thinking about that. It's gonna happen. Let's get into the first question here from Niccolo
Scott Tolinski
we're not ripping on CJ because we don't like him. We love CJ.
Scott Tolinski
CMS.
Scott Tolinski
this side of my face.
Scott Tolinski
on learning machine learning we joined Sentry, I was using an a seven three, and that was a really great camera. Even though it's a picture camera, but if you're looking for, like, a dual purpose camera, the a seven,
Wes Bos
data science, Scott of questions around and servers on the same domain name.
Wes Bos
you will probably be able to skill up pretty quickly
Scott Tolinski
tool, I found this to be a delight to use.
Wes Bos
Alright. That's good. I'll look at that. Node scissors, like, in every room. You always do. It drives me nuts Yeah. It's like a.net CMS. Very popular in the, like, corporate world.
Wes Bos
And that is how you can set up something like forward slash admin, be in And half of it is simply just knowing what's out there and what the tools are. You're probably
Scott Tolinski
I Wes, the removal of white space and new lines, That is the one like, if it was just that,
Wes Bos
That's it. Sounds awesome. Alright. Let's get into the next one. Mark CSS, I keep seeing the use of lowercase snake case in TypeScript, JavaScript files, in notable projects like Svelte JS and even in your own code bases.
Scott Tolinski
a wire a wireless, a a cordless and you cut your cardboard into little strips, and it takes no time at all.
Wes Bos
just get more blue boxes
Scott Tolinski
why would they have picked me for this job? And then Wes Scott to be. It's a good spot to be if
Wes Bos
of donations, may maybe that's even high. But you get a couple $100 a year, that's
Scott Tolinski
Yeah. So my my setup, one, first and foremost, Randy does just such an an incredible job editing these, but as CJ,
Wes Bos
if you cannot skill up during your day job, By the way, I just purchased
Scott Tolinski
easier to read. So that's why I use it. But I I didn't even consider using Snake Case until Rich started talking about it, and then I,
Wes Bos
What's up, Scott? How are you doing today? Nice. Beautiful. Well Yeah. Thank you so much, Jay. Popped in, CJ. I appreciate that. Yeah. No worries. I'll see you guys
Scott Tolinski
Here is my career question. I'm considering earning a master's degree in computer science or machine learning or something related to artificial intelligence.
Scott Tolinski
excellent interface, which, just Wes on underwent a a
Wes Bos
So
Scott Tolinski
I don't like the way it looks. Yeah.
Wes Bos
go through the entire motion from start to finish is going to be great for your skill set. It is tough. And I I think some of these things
Scott Tolinski
because we primarily do video. We're doing a lot of video on here, and I use it for more than just,
Wes Bos
great job listening to this podcast. Right? Because
Scott Tolinski
this is the backlight here. I have the
Guest 2
or
Wes Bos
a a block of CSS,
Scott Tolinski
if if you have been laid off here, you probably are just applying. You're looking for stuff. And a lot of these jobs are going to be removal, You charge it with USB, As I'm concerned, I might not always have the time for it myself. What do you recommend?
Wes Bos
seven ninety eight, which was
Scott Tolinski
You've been inspiring me to be a better dev ever since. Many thanks.
Wes Bos
let's hit it again. Have you ever hit impostor syndrome? Imposter syndrome is, if you don't know,
Guest 2
Hey. Hey. Look who's here. What's up, guys?
Scott Tolinski
Umbraco
Wes Bos
very common
Scott Tolinski
And, what I mean by low key is that, like, you don't necessarily think of Denver food, especially we we were talking about this at the meetup. Sushi. Man, there's a lot of great sushi in Denver,
Wes Bos
my website when it's not functioning. And you know what running with all these errors.
Scott Tolinski
you learn something new all the time.
Scott Tolinski
honestly gonna be right now
Wes Bos
nowhere close. I suppose we could just count the faces in that photo.
Scott Tolinski
giving you technical interviews or expecting you to know all this stuff. And since you're behind, you see all these mandates from CEOs saying, I'm not going to hire anyone who is not skilled in AI. I think that's serious, and I think that is,
Wes Bos
forward slash,
Scott Tolinski
anything related to just engineering in general beyond that or, like, just in general AI.
Scott Tolinski
Yeah. I think the best jobs, the most growth I've ever had have been the ones where I've started feeling like an imposter. Like,
Wes Bos
time and resources.
Scott Tolinski
or have not taken the time to actually use and learn. Like, I have
Wes Bos
most of JavaScript.
Wes Bos
the admin application, which I know is running on port one two three four. And then if something else comes in that doesn't match those, then I'm gonna route it to to this one. Or, if it's like an asset, you could, like, match it by, like, JPEG or whatever, and you could you could route it to another, CSS dev battles,
Scott Tolinski
this is the fancy light. So you you can see what it looks like without the softbox, and then you give this on, and it just gives it a full on, like, production
Wes Bos
over creating various composables to manage my application state. Can you help me when I would need it, Max?
Scott Tolinski
or would it be wiser to continue building projects on my own to learn? Thank you for any help you can provide. Okay. You know,
Guest 2
And then composables
Scott Tolinski
these days than just doing a a degree on
Wes Bos
Scott for me. Not not my not my style. Do you know what a Rocky Mountain oyster is?
Scott Tolinski
And I gotta say, I I agree as somebody who has been really enjoying watching them myself.
Wes Bos
especially once I got the confidence of being able to
Scott Tolinski
stuff into either the work that I'm doing at work, or how can I finish
Wes Bos
Alright. So a reverse proxy
Scott Tolinski
just all of your errors monitored in this really
Wes Bos
Sorry for the long word Wes JS, but my question is, if you're in my position, how would you tackle this? Have you I guys had to do this yourself. Yeah. This is Build many projects
Scott Tolinski
So if you want to bring something to an interview,
Wes Bos
like, 50 different things on one server for $5 a month,
Scott Tolinski
you know, an uncharted path for you because it's always a little bit scary to go someplace you haven't haven't gone. So
Wes Bos
like, personally, I would not go get a computer science degree Mhmm. Because you can also what a reverse proxy will do is it will you you pass it down. But then you also have your your global state management, which is, like you said, a singleton once,
Scott Tolinski
I mean, honestly, that sounds like a fun video in itself.
Wes Bos
And it's an area where I'm usually on someone on thin ice. For example, hosting multiple applications you have a server,
Scott Tolinski
Yes. The dev battles let me tell you. A lot of people have been tuning in. I've been getting comments saying, I can't I I don't even program, and these things are a riot.
Scott Tolinski
on this show enough times, but it's not an uninformed opinion. And and, people may not agree with it, and that's fine. But, like, the problem problematic stuff around it. Not why. I never even said anything to that degree. I don't like React,
Wes Bos
But you can if if you're the type of person that likes school and feels like that would be beneficial to your career, which I think it will be. You Node? It's for those are probably very top of the hireability Today, we've got really good questions on what to do with the a NPM package that has suddenly got very popular
Scott Tolinski
Yeah. It shears through heavy cardboard. And it's not just cardboard. They say it can do, like, carpet and all kinds of stuff. I I don't know. I'm only using it for cardboard.
Scott Tolinski
yeah. It it it was a little too harsh all the time. So this is the backlight. And it's I I don't even like having it on because it's it's like, you can see me right now when I move my hands in front of it. It's just a bit too much. I need it to be a bit more diffused. Node, dude, you get the softbox, and you're gonna be looking like me. So you turn this. You can see I get a little bit of fill on my back light side of the head. So that's the,
Wes Bos
a Scott of time, we had minifier
Scott Tolinski
Node?
Wes Bos
which would chance. CJ did by far the worst job on the last Node. And, like, all of these, like, anonymous accounts come out of the woodwork generally, what happens is you you visit, like, the IP address, colon, Where's that? Pump it. That isn't that a good idea if you just blow it right up?
Scott Tolinski
as well. I I have my my whole kind of space dialed mostly with a couple of lights. I was using owned this house before us on our like, while we're moving in,
Wes Bos
maybe that someone should be Wes, and I'm just going to do it for myself. That's the thing. It's like, who can build and instead of having to put rods in them, it's just, like, air.
Wes Bos
And those are generally good people. They they have a little bit of skin in the game. They need to make sure that this package that they're relying on is is well used. So reach out to those people. Throw it in the readme that you're looking for maintainers because it's generally, yeah, a good idea to have more than one set of eyes on something that starts to get a little bit big. And, also, like, maybe set up some things to accept donations because, yeah, you you might not wanna be maintaining this full time or whatever. But if you get enough donations, then,
Scott Tolinski
her comment was, I wish it was acrylic. Can this thing do acrylic? No. It can't do acrylic. Man. I'm not impressed then. I gotta have everything acrylic. But one man. I think the acrylic looks kinda cheap if I'm being totally honest. The acrylic is nice, but
Wes Bos
paper cutting scissors, and they've been great for the kitchen. Costco's good for that. They sell, like, Basically, we would, like, write like a tree walker that would then apply all of the minifying
Scott Tolinski
right next door to it is the best ice cream place in Denver. You can get yourself some ice cream at Little Man ice cream. There is always a line there. The first time we came to Denver was in October, and we got Little Man one day because it was recommended to us. And then it was like we were headed to the airport, like, in the car going to the airport, you'd recommend this thing costs $35.
Wes Bos
you can push through that. People that have been in their careers for for many, many years, certainly don't put yourself into situations where you literally don't know what you're doing. Yeah. But there should be a little bit of something inside you that says, I I can figure this out.
Scott Tolinski
I had while refreshing I don't know if that's that, like, JS easier to read for everybody, but me, personally, I find it tremendously Yeah. Great answer.
Scott Tolinski
yeah, you're gonna have to keep it maintained.
Scott Tolinski
things have all are always going to be evolving, especially, like, front end frameworks and stuff like that. Because in that case,
Wes Bos
to help us help us out. Oh. Oh. Woah. Hello.
Scott Tolinski
taken off. It's now getting around 60,000 could get some good distance What are your thoughts on degrees these days? Are they worthwhile,
Wes Bos
get first paragraph with underscores in it. I wonder if you can talk about why this is. I've been led to believe that camel case was the more typically used standards for function naming. However,
Scott Tolinski
Alright. Next one from boot camp grad. Hey, guys. Thank you for your hard work in keeping your audience up to date on the latest and greatest when it comes to web development.
Wes Bos
while it still renders a 100%.
Scott Tolinski
and you just He just wins everything, folks. So we have to we have to fight back with our words because might need to get rid of it. Wes are upset and offended that he wins everything. So the only way I can get back at CJ is by Yeah. So they're For sure. Does cash out there? Good. Yeah. Throw some ads in the command line on install, all that stuff.
Wes Bos
maybe at one point. Next question we have here from Dan, long time lurker. Thanks for all your work. Thank you, Dan. I'm a designer and self taught developer from New Zealand. I've been lucky enough to have been working in a marketing digital agency Oh, that's a great Yeah. Fun. Although, like, I don't know why That makes for a fun video. Because writing Penia
Scott Tolinski
I changed careers and only went through a three month full time boot camp for education.
Wes Bos
maybe stop and ask. Am I am I just sitting? Am I just maintaining get sort of scooped by AI, they're gonna they're gonna be kind of reactive and say, oh, we need to put AI in our own product as Wes.
Wes Bos
my, like, uses page, westboss.com/uses.
Wes Bos
website.
Wes Bos
around how do you maintain it and make sure that it's not going to go away.
Wes Bos
I have one for burner email addresses. I have another one for the uses.tech
Scott Tolinski
But, also,
Wes Bos
somebody just static file hosting that is is on your server. So it is a great way to run multiple apps on the same server. It's a great way to save money because
Scott Tolinski
just make it easier to read. So, on this. RE 20. It's a classic radio mic, and that's why it sounds good. I have a deeper voice, so this microphone is, it is this light does as an outsider
Wes Bos
the the light and fill box that Nice. You had while you were talking. I get this, like, like, Amazon credit every now and then from kitchen scissors. They're just regular scissors, but we keep them in the kitchen. You throw them in the dishwasher every single time they use them and use it just to cut up the kids' food or if they're having pancakes or whatever. And I think that using scissors in the kitchen is severely underrated. So I'm I'm here to sick pick to you
Scott Tolinski
I do think will will help you. But just be building as much stuff as possible, But not even just, like, being able to use them effectively,
Wes Bos
Because
Scott Tolinski
Next question from Redliz.
Scott Tolinski
I would be in favor of this proposal. Yeah. Because it is the white space re like, that's not adding anything to the technique.
Wes Bos
interfacing with the different models, interfacing with the different OpenAI
Scott Tolinski
Yeah. I don't you know, this one to me is
Wes Bos
I don't think It's not a, like, it breaks my HTML too long opinion. Yeah. Right. Those people are I my biggest advice to somebody that does have imposter syndrome is
Scott Tolinski
lately is that they've,
Wes Bos
That's a good question. Like, when do you reach for the built in state, and then when do you reach for an external state management library? And I honestly I just I wish CJ was here like, people don't wanna hire someone who just type That's how I first heard about it. Snake case makes a lot more sense. It's a little harder to I guess, maybe not harder to type a underscore versus a shift, but standing still,
Scott Tolinski
But in addition to that, I do think
Wes Bos
where especially in the last five or so years where people take a three week boot camp and get a job at Facebook and get a $100,000
Scott Tolinski
My wife even wrote
Guest 2
So I'll I'll try to relate this answer, like, a little bit back to React so I don't bore any of the non Vue and Nuxt people that are here. But you could think of Penia as global state for Vue. It's kind of like Redux or Zustand.
Scott Tolinski
you you feeling uncomfortable or like you have imposter syndrome is a sign I originally started my dev journey as a front end React developer, but they hired me, and I learned You best believe mine are inside a Gridfinity bin inside this drawer that has been, sectioned into Gridfinity bins.
Scott Tolinski
Hey. I created an Npm package last year that's surprisingly
Wes Bos
with
Scott Tolinski
One thing I think that
Wes Bos
eek these things into your day job. Your if your day job is constantly analysis, those things are problem in our industry or or problem that people have is that
Guest 2
that's two instantiations.
Wes Bos
limited
Scott Tolinski
between each word that, for me personally, with my challenges, specifically the things you are interviewing for. I I feel like React React Native is never gonna be a bad thing to study and get really good at because, Yeah. Also, Randy just told me we're gonna have to upload, like, a 150 videos manually section of the show is
Wes Bos
we talk about imposter syndrome so much that we maybe even have a little bit of the flip side then the company you work for is probably gonna be in trouble as well at at some point, and they certainly need to be trying new stuff. Not to say you should try absolutely everything new, but, So you you have a job and you think, man, how did I get this job? I'm I'm an impostor.
Wes Bos
watch
Guest 2
you should reach Propenia because simple apps technically could create custom composables that share Scott.
Scott Tolinski
So before early on my projects
Wes Bos
And being able to be able to go deep on something to actually get really smart and understand how these things work rather than just being able to poop poop poop TypeScript into chat GPT,
Scott Tolinski
to me, that feels a little bit more like a place that people would want to be hiring. Because, yes,
Wes Bos
go through the It's like a mountain amphitheater. Right? Like, you can you websites for clients using PHP, JS, CSS, etcetera. Though I have been trying to upscale myself in frameworks like React View, etcetera.
Guest 2
What's up, CJ? I I thought you popped in for that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just lying lying in dormant wait for Nux questions, but I'm here.
Wes Bos
And then it, like, even showed me the Python code and everything that it ran Deno
Scott Tolinski
normal pairs of scissors in a three pack that are nice scissors.
Wes Bos
increase your your skills. And then if you get canned I think we even have a question like this later on today,
Scott Tolinski
nice camera is going to do a lot. I've always liked Sony cameras because of their low light performance.
Scott Tolinski
to me, that screams a little bit more
Wes Bos
Wes you're logging in.
Scott Tolinski
The thing that I have that is difficult you know, things that you could be learning as long as you Yarn the type of person who's willing to take on a challenge, And it seems ridiculous to have a a power tool for cutting cardboard,
Wes Bos
And then your reverse proxy
Scott Tolinski
Node that I've been laid off, I feel like I'm way behind in all the new tech that's available. I've been working on learning React Native since it's basically React, but I was curious what the direction softbox tightening up those those DB queries or fixing your endpoints so that they're lightning fast, implementing caching where you need it. But it also gives you, like, things like a session replay so you can see what went wrong, like, in a scrubbable video, when it went wrong. You can get,
Wes Bos
Yes. This, like should we use x, y, or z? It's just constant circles in web development. And for probably,
Scott Tolinski
is
Wes Bos
create stuff and and, like, build the stuff that it is that they want. So
Scott Tolinski
can see concerts there, and it's just, like, out in the the mountains. Yeah. It it's so cool because it is a like, the literal sides of the amphitheater are just giant red rock. They're massive. And that, like, really, like for
Wes Bos
have you ever had impostor syndrome? It's funny. We get this question probably once a week, and we haven't answered it in many years because I feel like we've answered it quite a bit. But
Scott Tolinski
help maintaining this thing.
Scott Tolinski
step up to the plate. Because You Node, there's people out there. Yeah. Pop it in the Readme and and and put it somewhere. Put it just at the dang top of the Readme so that, like, people might see it. I mean, you never know who's out there looking to, get experience doing that kind of stuff. But reach out to people that way Wes they are, whether it's on Npm, where they're gonna be seeing it, or on GitHub, whatever.
Wes Bos
a lot of people right Node, as these businesses
Scott Tolinski
whether that's,
Wes Bos
and it will Node,
Scott Tolinski
Oh, man. I always forget the number
Guest 2
caching fetch function
Scott Tolinski
There's some, like, kind of higher end places.
Scott Tolinski
that causes so many issues with trying to, you know, not cast shadows or whatever. So this softbox, will certainly probably be replaced more and more by AI every single week here. But,
Wes Bos
in the box and the AI come code comes out the other end. They wanna hire somebody who
Scott Tolinski
And and I found personally, again, that, like, that is where the massive jumps in my education
Wes Bos
it certainly is easier to read. What do you think?
Scott Tolinski
if they if they call your name and you come up there and you hit a touchdown with your baseball bat, then
Wes Bos
knows how to effectively use these tools, like Scott said,
Scott Tolinski
Peace.
Wes Bos
JS Nation and React Summit, which will have already happened by the time you hear this. Yes. And we just got back from well, I just got back from Denver where we had the Syntax meetup. What a hoot, man. We had, like, probably, what, a 120 people show up for a meetup.
Scott Tolinski
you can, Yeah. A million dollar idea right there. I mean There you go. Joner
Wes Bos
and that
Scott Tolinski
full on RGB. I could change it to be any color in the world. So I actually have mine a little bit yellow to give me some color. I'm a fairly pale person, so it it gives me a little bit, just a more color.
Scott Tolinski
Next question from Bobby Tables.
Wes Bos
they're going to bill you based on how many apps you have running. So if you wanna run,
Scott Tolinski
opinion on something they either don't understand Wenger is a really cool restaurant. It's not like the the cheapest place, but it's also not some place you have to go get dressed up to go to.
Wes Bos
like, a 31%
Scott Tolinski
Yeah. I you know, it I think you had a good point about trying things slightly different each time because there's nothing worse than somebody who has a really firm
Wes Bos
and you can modify those values as you walk through maybe it's time to take on something that is a little bit harder.
Wes Bos
Go please go click the links.
Scott Tolinski
hey. That kinda makes the pain a little bit less, a bunch of you're you're ready for the next big jump in in your scary, trajectory of Century's got everything you need to make your application Amazon boxes or whatever, we're getting our our our this or that. Man, it is crazy.
Wes Bos
given that you know how to program, and you hopefully know about what that tech is because you've been listening to us.
Wes Bos
a year. But have you had it? Yes. I I don't think I have it as as much as other people, and it just shears. Oh, Caitlin has one of these for fabric.
Wes Bos
all in the on the same server.
Wes Bos
It's gonna it's gonna
Scott Tolinski
So, like, who can write the minifier that returns the best score
Wes Bos
nice than having something that is perfectly sized for what it is that you need it. Oh, I forgot. Shameless plug. Go to youtube.com.
Wes Bos
in
Scott Tolinski
shout out to Gridfinity.
Scott Tolinski
Amaran
Wes Bos
and on your server, you can have multiple processes running. And, generally, those processes run on each on their own port.
Wes Bos
in a couple years. And those are valid concerns, but
Scott Tolinski
with a grid on it and a light thing to diffuse the light. And then for the light itself, Even if it is probably just drop shipped, rebranded, whatever, it works just great enough for me for $35.
Scott Tolinski
which is essentially just like make it be known that you're looking for maintainers.
Wes Bos
to the different applications.
Wes Bos
the port that that application is running on, and that's how you run each of them.
Wes Bos
The reason for this is both job security as well as a way to broaden opportunities. I am a family man, so anytime that I do have outside
Scott Tolinski
I I did I did the whole, like, angled spice drawer because, Courtney's always wanted, like, a nice looking spice drawer. And I I like I the spice drawer looks immaculate. It looks so good, once every two weeks, which is crazy. And you you got cardboard in these modern times. And so I I we were just struggling to do anything other than fill the bin and then jump on it Just find things like that if you can
Wes Bos
is this idea that
Scott Tolinski
I mean,
Wes Bos
Oh, When it comes time to visiting those applications,
Scott Tolinski
scientific
Wes Bos
that was a little bit easier, but still, it's that's confusing, man.