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Potluck - Using Emoji in Naming × Project Estimates × Goal Planning
- 00:11 Welcome to Syntax podcast
- 00:41 Sponsored by Linode, LogRocket, Sanity
- 01:16 Wes introduces himself
- 01:18 Scott introduces himself
- 02:13 Wes knows football is not hockey
- 03:06 Wes wants to attend a Bills game
- 03:53 Scott's neighbor was talking to Ciara without knowing
- 04:05 Moving on to first question
- 04:29 Question about using emojis for CSS grid areas
- 06:28 Scott's take on emoji CSS areas
- 08:34 Next question about project timelines
Scott's take on emoji CSS areas
Wes Bos
you know? Especially with CSS where you might not be able to, like, click through to where that was find. I think if it's gonna be weird and cute, it's gotta be as useful.
Guest 2
it's it's to me, it it seems
Wes Bos
a dash,
Guest 2
Rid. Yeah. It seems like something I should like, but I can't find myself actually liking it. Maybe if What's up, Wes? How are you, Scott? I'm Dago from Havana.
Guest 2
rid. It seems like big braining it a little bit. Like, oh, let's do this. Yeah. Let's let's get this graphical representation.
Wes Bos
and then the 2 bottom corners, and then a thicker underscore for the bottom.
Wes Bos
top left arrow,
Wes Bos
the grid template areas was, top right arrow,
Guest 2
Maybe you can shoot that to me on Instagram. I'll do that. Yeah. Hold on. Let me,
Wes Bos
I probably wouldn't do this. I think it's a little bit too too much of a flex. And 2 right hand columns,
Guest 2
with the the naming convention there.
Guest 2
It requires a level of, like, translating in your brain when you're reading it, where I would probably be a bit more explicit So it's quite probably good for her that she didn't know who she was. Otherwise, you'd be, like, you know Yeah. Get all starstruck trying to talk to somebody.
Wes Bos
let me let me find it real quick. I am going to for our grid template areas instead of just words.
Guest 2
maybe I should see the screenshot here.
Guest 2
Alright. And then it seems as you know, maybe you should do our I will ask you guys how we can come up with a reliable timeline for a project,
Wes Bos
a thicker pipe for the
Wes Bos
And then they use l for the left, scrapping that. And they tore down the entire stadium and, like, Turned it 20 degrees and then rebuilt it just so that
Wes Bos
you're gonna down 6 months down the road, 2, 3 years down the road, there's Three new developers on that they're gonna be like, We got the Hamilton Tiger Cats. The Tigers. They things like this on my website. It's just because it's fun for people to see. Yeah. Little Easter eggs. But as like a team development, What is
Wes Bos
I would do something like this on my website just because I know developers are pawing through it. Oh, yeah.
Scott introduces himself
Wes Bos
a lot, but I can only have a couple before I'm, like, ready for you. Yeah. It's not it's not typically
Guest 2
And you're cranking them. I I was cranking out, but I wasn't intentionally doing that. I took the train, so I didn't have to drive. But, like, man, They just kept getting me more drinks, and by the end by the end of the game, it was a little rough. Oh, yeah. You gotta and be careful with that. I can't. I I I enjoy beer
Guest 2
my style, But, you know, you're you're with the boys at the game, and, you know, unfortunately, it just happened to be on a Sunday. Pucks and everything. Yeah. It shoots the pucks.
Guest 2
yeah, I got I got a friend invited me, and he had, like, some VIP ticket thing that had an open bar and stuff beforehand.
Guest 2
Oh, Thank you, Dago.
Wes knows football is not hockey
Wes Bos
the sun wouldn't be in their eyes or something like that. But it rid. Like football in Canada, like, it's huge, but they only have 13 games a year. And, like like, it's not uncommon Why not? come up with a reliable timeline for a project.
Wes Bos
Go to the gym or,
Wes Bos
built a Cloud computing developers trust And then when you have to put something there, you use the actual Emoji character or the Unicode character instead of the word,
Wes Bos
Intense says the NFL.
Wes Bos
Matt, they're they're gonna build a massive new stadium in Hamilton, SVG, I think that that the 2 different types of underscores and then the fact that you couldn't find 1 to use left hand side, so you just use l.
Wes Bos
and they ended up what the heck is this? Like, there's one thing to be a cow, but it's another thing just to be an underscore, allows you to define an area or areas of your grid. And you they're called named areas. Rid. So so meaning that you could grid up a header, a content, a sidebar, and a footer. And instead of saying, like, this item goes in the 1st column, you say this rid item goes in the content area or the header area or the sidebar area or the footer area. So you basically name them and you say just this thing goes in the in the area. And that's nice because to rid. Saying I'm going for it. It's just like, Oh, is that is that okay to do? Is that gonna run into bad practices? So I told him like, I don't see any reason for things like arrows,
Wes Bos
like go to the grocery store and see all of the players there. And they, like, have side jobs and stuff. It's not nearly as
Sponsored by Linode, LogRocket, Sanity
Wes Bos
LogRocket. They give you visibility into people how people are using your website. And Sanity, essentially let's let's cover 2 things here. 1st, rid. CSS Grid Okay. So, CSS media queries, a cow for the middle, Like, I have lots of little,
Wes Bos
rid. How would you animate a CSS gradient? I love that question. So some really good stuff coming on up. We are sponsored by 3 awesome companies, Linode, Rid. I know. I've I've before somebody emails me, I know that it's football. I'm not that out to lunch on sports.
Wes Bos
My name is Wes Bos. I'm a developer from Canada.
Next question about project timelines
Guest 2
not have you do it. You can have a project manager if you're working for an agency. If you're working for a company, chances are you're not going to be the person developing that timeline.
Guest 2
where, of course, you're going to have to come up with exactly how long everything is going to take you, which I'd say is very, very common. Right?
Guest 2
especially if you don't know or have much experience with all the moving parts of the solution. Thanks So much for enlightening and enjoyable experience.
Guest 2
You people are asking you how long this is going to take.
Guest 2
And then you're also not gonna be the person doing the the back and forth in case things need to change or or grow as the developer. Right? So there's a situation where that's not necessarily the developer's responsibility.
Guest 2
If if you don't have
Guest 2
Give a good reliable project timeline. And many times, a project timeline
Guest 2
all of
Guest 2
How we can estimate that specifically,
Guest 2
Now there's a whole another situation where you're a freelancer. You're working on a small team. You don't have PMs or that type of situation
Guest 2
There's probably ways you could mathematically come up with how exactly long things are going to take. But in general, what you wanna do is kind of give your the the data, you don't have all of the information, how are you going to
Guest 2
optimistic, and sometimes it's The opposite of that, it's way longer than it needs to be. I have found that there's several different types of ways to give a reliable timeline. One of which is Ready. What do you got? You got arena football there. Who's your team?
Guest 2
You know, it has to be as explicit. Yeah. Yeah. Feel as explicit to me. I think that's the problem. Next question is from Dago. Dago says,
Guest 2
is is hopelessly
Guest 2
Yeah. So, basically, Dago's asking,
Question about using emojis for CSS grid areas
Wes Bos
center, top, that describes where it is. And I thought, oh, that's that's rid. Kind of interesting. And then he said, like, what do you even think about this thing? the platform for rid. Content that powers remarkable digital experiences. Let's talk about all of them partway through the episode.
Guest 2
On on the surface, it seems like something I would like because it's kind of cute and fun. But in in the same regard, I think it's The hardest part of any of this is it comes largely down to experience.
Wes Bos
Rid. Because if it was, like, really long name, I would still have to go copy paste the actual character.
Wes Bos
rid. Opted to do is to use emojis or Unicode characters Be interesting to get your take. Your and Scott's take on this is send a screenshot to Wes' Instagram as well. So,
Wes Bos
That you like this like, I don't think it's gonna break. There's no bad practices here. It's a little bit funky in the fact that you have to do it.
Wes Bos
But A sustainable, like how do you be a sustainable web developer in terms of like the environment? With me as always is mister Scott Talinski. How are you doing today, Scott?
Wes Bos
You can change the layout of the grid and those items will still just go where you want.
Wes Bos
Rid. Sometimes when people do sort of like left hand not I don't know. Out of left field, that's the state that's the, HSL, I would love to go to, like, a, like, a Bills game one day because we're 45 minutes from Buffalo and, like, the tailgating But I was curious what you thought about that.
Wes Bos
right.
Wes Bos
I don't see a reason why not. I'm not sure that I would necessarily do it myself.
Wes Bos
Rid. Or, like, you could put, like, a foot emoji in the footer.
Wes Bos
I can't possibly like, is this a good thing? Is this is this weird? rid. A pencil on a piece of paper for the content area,
Wes Bos
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Moving on to first question
Wes Bos
because I would love to answer this. So, Oh, that's great. All right, let's get into the first question.
Wes Bos
they said, so I have an interesting one for you. My work decided it's good For us to use emoji naming convention
Wes Bos
This is a question that somebody submitted via Instagram and I was like, this is a perfect One, please put it in the potluck
Wes wants to attend a Bills game
Guest 2
is Ciara, who's a, like, a pop star and married to Russell Wilson, The quarterback of the Denver Broncos, and the child is Russell Wilson's child.
Guest 2
the smoothing schmoozing with the mother of a child in their in their school. Right? They're just like, a a kid drop off. They're just kinda saying hi. Well, she just found out that the person the mother she's been schmoozing with is, yeah. I I could be I'm moving kind of at a a turtle's pace today. I went to the Broncos game Yesterday and,
Guest 2
And she's like, I just I had no idea. Like,
Guest 2
Looks super fun. There's there's no tailgate culture in Canada. It was it was like that, and it was a lot of fun. I'd never been to a Broncos game, man. It was wild. On a side note here, sorry for all of y'all tuning in for web dev stuff. Our neighbor found out that she's been schmoozing with,
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