almost 4 years ago Syntax Podcast
Wes’ New Soundproof Office
- 00:48 Prismic sponsors podcast
- 00:56 LogRocket and FreshBooks sponsor podcast
- 01:13 Scott built office himself
- 02:18 Feed speakers through ceiling
- 03:03 Chose basement for new office
- 03:49 Teens destroy drop ceilings
- 04:07 Framed out basement office
- 04:25 Did work himself for soundproofing
- 05:13 Experts helped with soundproofing
- 05:28 Contractors avoid small jobs
- 06:00 Mistakes ruin soundproofing
- 06:17 Did it himself to understand
- 06:36 Soundproofing needs isolation
- 06:58 Old office had noise issues
- 07:45 Lost ceiling height for soundproofing
- 09:45 Goals for dream office
Lost ceiling height for soundproofing
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I thought I could do better myself. Rid. I'm just gonna go as far as I can possibly go and then sort of reach out to,
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home, reno, working on stuff, understanding how a house works, I find that it's really such a treat to have heated floors. So I put that in. Rid. I wanted it to be hardwired, meaning that insulated and have all the utilities to them. So we bought this house. It had rid. A half finished basement, meaning that the there was carpet on the floors. The the drywall of the walls was done, But the ceiling was not done. And I think it was prepped for what's called the drop ceiling, which is you hang, like, these, like, tracks and tiles so you can get at the mechanicals if you need to. And then kids accidentally punch and break them and and rid which is good because I always have cold cold feet when I'm sitting here, and LogRocket, like, lawyer's offices. Like, very high end projects. So there's not And the kind of person you're gonna get to work on a basement, rid. It is extremely hard to work. And my last office was on the 3rd floor, I think that is a very good skill to have. And I I think that I will help Family and friends for the rest of my life now that I have these skills. Totally. Yeah. So so, Rid. So I thought I was like, I'm gonna just do the soundproofing myself so I can I I understand how this works? I've done all the research. I'm gonna make sure it's done right. Can't be that hard. Yeah. And for those of you out there who are thinking, why not just throw some foam up on the walls and call it sound or soundproof? You know, soundproofing is all a lot about Things like isolation.
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which involves, it was pretty good because it was a whole floor away from the actual action.
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to do it. And I was like, get out of here. This is like
Soundproofing needs isolation
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high density
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separate the structure
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materials that soak up the sound or vibrations entirely.
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You're trying to
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materials,
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Yeah. At our last house, we had you're building it. Like, you're getting your hands dirty. You're up there with the rid The the boards, the cores, the all sorts of stuff. And you're doing some serious, serious hardware work.
Guest 2
that you're currently in from the extra structure. You're trying to give some air gap there. Even if it's slight, you're trying to get some, I mean, there's a lot that goes into it. When we, it's insane.
Scott built office himself
Guest 1
Yeah. Yeah. It was, rid. Kind of a fun project, and and I'll go into kinda why I did it myself in just a sec as well. But it's, been a a very rid Enjoyable project to do, but I am also very glad that I am a web developer and not a contractor because
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rid. I'm sore and tired, and, like, I talked to my friends who do this stuff. I'm like, does it get easier? They're like, no. You're sore all the time. It's hard work. Yeah.
Guest 2
Rid I I can't really fly my speakers that well, at least at this point. But it's hard when you can't have access to an open ceiling. Like, you are able to have an open that you closed up. Right? So Yeah. Yeah. And I I kinda screwed up my speakers, so now I'm trying to figure out how to hide that.
Guest 2
Wires. At least you got the hole You got the hole in some speakers through there. So I got the
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I know you're getting me really inspired, though. I have some, updates and some modifications I wanna make to mine now. I'm gonna hang fly some lights.
Transcript
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I'm gonna go through all of that today as to what decisions I made and how I did it and whatnot, And, it's gonna be a good one. We're sponsored today by 3 awesome companies.
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Did work himself for soundproofing
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However, this is I was in the basement where there are people above us. So, rid. Not up against the wall. I wanted it to be good looking and I wanted natural light. So we'll go through how I the feed into the ceiling, so that's good. That's what matters. Alright. So, let's go in into it. I'm almost done. There's a couple being like this. First of all, rid The most important part of this project for me was the soundproofing. I needed the space to be as quiet as possible Yeah. Between the ceiling and the floor treatments that I did, I rid. I gave up, I think, 4, 4 and a quarter inches a exciting episode for me, at least, in that is detailing my new office. So I have been working probably for Yeah. Exactly.
Guest 1
and that was pretty good. I could still hear the blood Curdling screams, but, trades as I need them. And it's also fun. Like, I very much enjoy learning new ready. And I think that some of the houses had attic spaces, which are really nice. Some of the houses had, rid. Outdoors sheds or garages that can be converted to it, like, kinda like Scott has.
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rid Elephants, my dream office, rid Sound treatment is a big part of that as well. If there's echoes in the room, it's kinda irritating. I put heated floor underneath the flooring, just do everything the same, rid. It's great for building websites with slices.
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and they are loud as heck all the time. Screaming all the time. Very, very high energy kids. And if when they are home, I rid I did lots of research. I talked talked to lots of experts. Shout out to everybody who reached out and helped me out.
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So basically, I approached this project,
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Why are you here swinging a hammer and Drilling stuff, screwing stuff together, drywalling.
Old office had noise issues
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my my office was in a bedroom on the 1st floor, and that was, like, a 100 year old house, whatever, with,
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treat the room, whatever it may be. But the ceilings were so low That we would have to, like we would have had to totally rip out the ceilings. But then by the time we added the amount of layers, we would have need to add it to get that kind of isolation.
Guest 2
You know, plate glass windows that would just let in every single sound from the outside. So at some point, we were like, well, what if I moved my office to the basement
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and then we could at least
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Rid Room would have been tiny. It would have been totally not worth it. So, there's a lot that goes into building a soundproof room or Yeah. Not even a soundproof room, but like a sound sound better. Yeah. Better room. Yeah.
Goals for dream office
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So let's talk about soundproofing. There's kind of, like, 2 things that I wanted to do. The first one is, of height in the basement, which is luckily the the ceiling heights were were decent down here, but rid It's a lot. Like, you can't just if you if you have any height issues, you can't do this type of thing. Yeah. It's not nothing. Also, it gets impossible to hire contractors right now. People are rid Super overpriced. I got one quote for probably a 1 hour job from a plumber, and he wanted 7.50, rid. About 2 months on building out I wanna take the noise that is happening Rid. And then the other the other one is vibration sounds. And that one really gets me is that somebody is walking above you.
Guest 2
Rid The kids were home from school or day care or whatever, and it was just impossible. It was impossible to get you recording it. So Yeah. I I think this will be a huge rid. Productivity boost for you to have this space because ever since I moved out to the garage, even though it's very far from a garage, it it has really changed my life. Yeah. Rid. Yeah. Exactly.
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people just generally talking on the phone, that type of thing. That's just regular noise.
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Wes and I were both recording with a house full of kids 247.
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rid Achieved all of those things. Yeah. Cool. I'm excited to hear about this. You know, as somebody who has been finally tuning their office for a while, I don't have the opportunity to make mine soundproof considering it's like in. Well, I have a door to the outside. Yeah. You don't necessarily need to. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. I don't need to. Especially, you know, People might not remember this, but pandemic times,
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outside of the house. My wife running in the hair or sorry. Not outside. Inside the house. My wife running in the hairdryer. The kids ready. The kids listen to music, because my kids are
Mistakes ruin soundproofing
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that ruins all of your soundproofing.
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because, like, what simple as, like, if you cut a hole in the soundproofing or you put 1 screw into the ceiling joist, rid A dinky little basement project. They are working on recording studios and,
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this right,
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Cloud accounting will talk about all of them partly through the episode. With me as always is mister Scott Talinski. How are you doing today, Scott? Hey. I'm doing rid. Good. And I I want people to get the right idea. Because when you say that you're building it yourself, little nagging things that they need to do yet. There's a couple more, pieces of sound or sound rid. Treatment inside the room that he needed to do. If I when I talk really loud, sometimes you'll hear a little bit of an echo that I need to nip it in the bud yet. But, rid so let's talk about it. We bought a new house couple months ago, People these contractors know right now that they are in high demand. So, rid Bang up. A lot of the choices I made made things much harder than they had to be because it wasn't standard building materials.
Framed out basement office
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Actually, no. That's not what I wanna go into just yet.
Experts helped with soundproofing
Guest 1
And, basically, I was like, I'm not gonna be able to and a lot of the soundproofing experts I talked to, they said, anybody who knows this stuff is not taking on
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I thought, like, the soundproofing, and they it has a huge basement, which, Rid. And contractors don't like that because they want to get in, do their work, get out. So I thought if I'm going to get
Contractors avoid small jobs
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they are they're gonna wanna like, literally the ceiling and soundproofing it and everything, and rid As well as, like, the set up the desk and and everything like that. So, And I just framed out, like, a little wall, rid in front of it, out of the door, ripped up the carpet. And at that point, I sort of had, like, a blank slate to say, okay, rid. I can build my office. I can build the dream office. And I sort of sort of said, like, okay. Like, what? So the question we have here, a lot of people are like, why did you not just hire somebody for this? we had, like, sort of, like, an l shape in, in the basement, and I decided, okay, this sort of ready. Area in the basement is going to be my office.
Chose basement for new office
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rid. Generally, like, for people listening around the world, they think like a basement. Isn't that damp and wet and cold? And basements in Canada are very especially newer houses are very well ready. Waterproofed and, Prismic, they are a headless CMS service that is, they do JavaScript session, replay, and FreshBooks.
Feed speakers through ceiling
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Rid new. It's about, I don't know, 16 years old, I needed power, speaker, and data right to my desk. But I also wanted my desk to be in the middle of the room, goals. Let's talk about goals. Essentially, I had a blank Late, I said, like, what would my dream office be? I want to create a space that is comfortable and quiet for myself so that I can create the best content that I can make. Right? Rid. So these are the things that I set off as my goals. I want it to be quiet, which involves soundproofing. I want it to be comfortable,
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part of that was when we were house shopping or looking for, like, okay, where Where can I have an office? And
Teens destroy drop ceilings
Guest 2
Those things love to get destroyed by, like, teens, I think. I think that's like a a classic. That's ready. With the couch in the basement. So,