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Job Types Agency, Tech, Startup, Entrepreneur VS Tech company VS In House

Wes Bos

Wes Bos Host

Scott Tolinski

Scott Tolinski Host

Topic 0 01:47

Agency Work

Guest 1

In a lot of these, we have experience in a lot of the different situations, so we are gonna sort of get into it. I thought we first describe

Guest 1

And and there, of course, there are other categories than this, but these are sort of the big four, I'd like to think. So the first one is the agency or consultancy and grouping rid together.

Guest 1

and then we'll dive into the pros and cons of each. So let's just do, like, a high level.

Guest 1

Last potluck. And someone said, like, like, what are the pros and cons of the different types of jobs that are out there? I'm like, well, like,

Guest 1

Each of the different categories,

Topic 1 00:53

Check-in

Guest 2

just a really nice way. And it does rid. Start to feel like I'm assembling the LEGO pieces.

Guest 2

just

Guest 2

You're adding a couple of components or classes to things, and they're just kinda falling into place.

Guest 2

A lot of the functionality

Guest 2

you know, pretty deep into the building of the next UI version of our our site right now. And I've gotten to the point where, like,

Guest 2

So, it couldn't be feeling any better about it right now.

Guest 2

Just living it,

Guest 1

So Right. Yeah. It's right. Right on. Right on. Alright. Well, let's get into it. We had a potluck question

Guest 2

So it really feels

Guest 2

My primitive components that I've written to help me do this design are all, like, working like it's in a good spot, and it just keeps moving forward. So I I'm in that that re slow mode where you're working on designs. You're iterating fast.

Guest 2

Just,

Topic 2 00:35

Sponsors

Guest 1

FreshBooks Cloud Accounting, and LogRocket

Guest 1

With me as always is mister Scott Talinski. How are you doing today, Scott? Hey. I am doing good, man.

Guest 1

JavaScript session replay. We'll talk about all of them partway through the episode.

Guest 1

the all in one incident response platform for DevOps and SREs, spike up and down. So what I would do is I would just come on as a sort of hired gun. So it's almost like an employee, or an agency where it's, like, a company will hire the agency to build out

Topic 3 02:59

Agency Experience

Guest 1

but

Guest 2

online ad space, rid. Although that's not the only space. Yeah. What's your experience in working with, with an agency or in an agency? Do you have any experience there, Wes? Yeah. Quite quite a bit, because

Guest 1

when I was doing freelance,

Guest 1

Some of them were really, really cool. Some of them were maddening, you are a developer that is hired by another company, in terms of, like, the differences there. We we're gonna give, like, examples of companies from each of the ones. So, like, what are some of the Publicis is actually a really a big one. Oh, there's another really good one that is in New York, and they build some of the rid stuff out there. A k q a. It's just two letters. A k q a. Are you familiar with them? No. I'm not. They do a lot of video and stuff. They're mostly like a branding agency, but I'm sure they do web as well. Oh, yeah. Boku is a a very big they're more of a consulting company where they would get hired by Browser vendors and all kinds of people to do solve JavaScript problems.

Guest 1

agencies there's a lot to think about, and and Scott and I have worked

Topic 4 04:19

Large Agencies

Guest 2

Yeah. I know Massive size? Like

Guest 1

rid The big agencies that are out there. Big agencies? You mean rid A product, a marketing campaign. Agency world tends to be very popular in, like, advertising And then this is generally,

Guest 1

Yeah. Well known one. That's actually a great question. I don't have my I don't know. Blast radius is a big one.

Topic 5 00:11

Intro

Guest 1

Oh, welcome to Syntax, the podcast with the tastiest web development treats out there. Today, we've got a show for you. Started as a potluck. Now it's a full blown show. We're gonna talk about different kinds of web developer jobs that you can get into and the Pros and cons between them. So we've got agency consultancies, We are sponsored by 3 awesome companies today. LightStep Incident Response, have overflow work, and they need people to come on and let go, a tech company, start up, in house, corporate government, freelance, and entrepreneur.

Topic 6 02:28

Agency Overview

Guest 1

a a hired gun where you either either go into other companies. That's Kinda more of a consultancy

Guest 1

to build a product or solve a problem. So you're kind of a as they quite a bit of my work was, where you go into a company and you fix something, I also had other clients at the time, so quite a bit. We I had worked for probably 6 or 7 different agencies over the time on various projects.

Topic 7 00:00

Transcript

Announcer

You're listening to Syntax, the podcast with the tastiest web development treats out there. Strap yourself in and get ready. Here is Scott Talensky and Wes Bosch.

Topic 8 03:44

Agency Sizes

Guest 2

what, 2,000 person agency. Right? Yeah. My my first 3 jobs were all agencies, and it's funny because, is, you know, the same as it was before, so I'm not having to get into too much beyond CSS and HTML stuff.

Guest 1

and we'll talk about that as well as, like, there's different sizes of agencies as well. There's Two people agencies. There's, Talk about all of them.

Guest 2

I my 1st job was, like, a 24 person agency, and then we moved to, like, a 40 person agency. And then my 3rd job was, like, this 2,000 person agency. So rid. I kind of have experienced it, like, all different sizes of agencies. So I think I'll be able to add a little bit of insight in here too,

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