about 4 years ago Syntax Podcast
Syntax Live at Reactathon
- 00:36 Podcast sponsored by Century, FreshBooks, PaymentsHub
- 01:20 Hasty Treat podcast on Mondays
- 01:31 New Supper Club podcast releasing
- 02:40 Live podcast overview
- 05:05 Debate on putting imports at top of files
- 06:04 Debate on enforcing semicolons
- 07:06 Debate on usefulness of for loops
- 08:16 Debate on adding types to JavaScript
- 09:35 Ad for Sentry error tracking
- 11:18 Debate on using platform primitives vs transpiling
- 11:40 Debate on usefulness of TypeScript
- 12:18 Kicking It Old School segment
- 25:04 PaymentsHub sponsor ad
- 26:39 Syntax Error segment
- 32:24 JS or NAS audience participation
- 39:07 FreshBooks sponsor ad
- 39:37 Audience Q&A
Ad for Sentry error tracking
Wes Bos
And into the server. You know? Like, we got it already. You know? And, like, you can you can step in there. Fine. You don't have the animations or, know? No. But, like, you can now. Yeah. You can you can use, like, most of that and then just add a little sprinkle
Wes Bos
the web. Yeah. Turning it off, you're gonna have a bad time. Bad time in 2022. Yeah.
Wes Bos
I think the I think that JavaScript is a pillar of of the
Wes Bos
Because, like like, form like, we looked at it in Ken's talk yesterday. Like, forms are already built into the browser Q and a. If you've got q's no. You gotta you gotta display the q's to me, Scott. Whoops. If you got a question for us, feel free to come line up.
Wes Bos
without JavaScript. Forms should work without JS, and accessibility should not be broken when JS does not Load.
Wes Bos
We're we're laughing because we coulda we coulda filled this whole talk with Brian Larew, Tweek. Here? He's, here tomorrow. Yeah. I've been saying this for years, but I think the best way to build an app is to stay as close to the platform primitives it was a Web 3 focused crypto so we Actually, fooled everyone. Doesn't that sound like a like a Auth0 competitor or something like that? You know? Oh, yeah. I'm using tokens.com.
Wes Bos
Yeah. Of of whatnot. But I don't know. I don't know. I think, like,
Scott Tolinski
Classes were a mistake.
Audience Q&A
Scott Tolinski
My favorite episode?
Wes Bos
Skipped 1. I skipped 1? Oh, Saskatchewan. My wife is from Saskatchewan.
Wes Bos
Favorite Syntax FM episode. What's your favorite one to do?
Scott Tolinski
Woah. Woah.
Wes Bos
Oh.
Scott Tolinski
Yeah. And, typically, if you're having, like, problems and you're solving problems that you are having,
Scott Tolinski
and I'm gonna I'm gonna ruin the microphone.
Scott Tolinski
and it works actually with Cogent really well too.
Wes Bos
Brisket or pork, what's your take? what I've learned in my career is that Today is a live podcast, and the plan for today is,
Scott Tolinski
What are we listening to? I listen to, like, 18 hockey podcasts, so, what does this code do? Oh, jeez.
Scott Tolinski
And yeah. And we were muting mortal on Yeah. We he couldn't get he couldn't reach us because we'd both had Wordle muted on Twitter.
Scott Tolinski
Quebec.
Scott Tolinski
Please Wow. No really way. I can't believe you did that. And That's unreal.
Wes Bos
Quebec, That's possible and not transpiling. I remember Brian was very outspoken when Baoil came, and he's like, no. We're just doing ES 5 until until you can support it. Folks bias to ESM or folks should bias ESM web components, progressive enhancement, tightest shifting.
Wes Bos
Scott, can you name them all? The northeast territories? So, Yeah. Oh.
Wes Bos
Yeah. And so he has a van and we are going to button off for the right hand side,
Wes Bos
What do we got? Let's see here.
Wes Bos
mean guy. I was like, who are you? What are you doing? Like, can you not do that? Yeah. And he's like, oh, sorry sorry, man. And, like, that was really cool because he could have been a Yeah. We will answer it confidently
Scott Tolinski
I was trying to think, what can I do without ruining the microphone?
Wes Bos
Fitter what's your favorite Trader Joe's snack? Mochi mochi bits. They're, like, crunchy Is that a mochi? Short winged swan?
Wes Bos
Thank you. Words.
Wes Bos
Oh my gosh. Yeah.
Wes Bos
Ontario,
Wes Bos
But that is it. I think we're out of time here. Should we wrap this up? Oh, wow. I did. I did. Yeah. That's it. We just did it. Yeah. Wow. Thank you, everybody, for tuning in. That was awesome.
Wes Bos
Oh my gosh. I don't know all the provinces. Can you name all the 50 states? I got all the territories, though. Can I name on it? Maybe. Sure. Nova Scotia, and IE 6 did not support transparent
Wes Bos
there are so many different use cases for something. And when I don't like something, it's probably because I don't understand That's the key. Okay. Well, like, why would you not just make the type outside that function? Alright. We are going to do audience participation now. You don't To come up this time, you open up your phone. Go to pigeonhole.atforward/sick,
Wes Bos
Pork.
Wes Bos
Oh, that's the one where the crumb gets underneath, and it's you throw it out. You know what I did? I switched I switched my phone to Dvorak Oh, man. This one's Oh. People are unsure. People are unsure. Yes, ma'am. We should people to change their votes.
Wes Bos
and the cows just freaking love it. They're like, Oh, don't like, we all love to trash talk all day on Twitter. Right?
Wes Bos
BC, Alberta, .net. Hit me up. A good website should function array dot sort, empty array dot sort.
Wes Bos
What the Flexbox?
Scott Tolinski
I don't.
Scott Tolinski
And don't forget to subscribe in your podcast player Or drop a review if you like this show.
Scott Tolinski
And Not My Computer, and that was a terrible outcome. Yeah.
Scott Tolinski
yeah. Beautiful. We're curious. Underhyped. Underhyped.
Scott Tolinski
I don't know why so many. They all say the same thing over and over again. I've been I've been really liking the Steve o podcast. Oh, Steve o. Yeah. Which yeah. The from Jackass.
Wes Bos
I got lots of Stickers later. Come say hi, and I'll give you a pack.
Wes Bos
Probably you probably don't use semicolons either, do you? That would be a a very Next section is syntax error. We show each other code with no syntax highlighting, and the other person must figure out what's wrong with it. We were cruel to you, and now we are cruel to each other. Alright.
Wes Bos
Yeah.
Scott Tolinski
Henri.
Guest 9
2 podcasters
Wes Bos
having to modify
Wes Bos
No. Totally.
Wes Bos
maybe at one point, I'll, I'll do it. So what would I rather do? I I would rather use the MacBook butterfly keyboard. And you just don't eat nature valleys around it, and you're good. Yeah. No
Wes Bos
by default when it's an array. But when it comes time to
Wes Bos
What am what am I missing? set of, never be as fast as native apps? Ask the folks that were just talking about React Native. I don't know a whole bunch about it. Oh, somebody's asked about BigInt. Let's see. What would you approach validating a product idea For building a small SaaS applications, That's why I say JavaScript funny. Woah. Hey. Canadians.
Wes Bos
the peanut butter cups when we go and, like, hot sauces and and stuff like that. So not a whole lot. Oh my gosh. There's Thousands of questions. Do I have stickers? Yes.
Scott Tolinski
Thank you. Yeah.
Wes Bos
Yukon. You no. I said Yukon. Brunswick. New Brunswick. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's for me on the movie right now. New Brunswick. Yeah. Good. Good. Good. Alright. Next 1.
Wes Bos
put a couple blog posts out there, a couple smaller videos, and eventually, one of them's gonna land. And that's the one that you gotta sort of take it and run with. You you you can figure it out from there.
Wes Bos
Lots of good ones. Some of the upcoming, like, interview ones are are really good. You get some really good insights from from folks. And and we also just talk shop about, like, Keyboards and phones and and whatnot. So it's good stuff.
Scott Tolinski
No. It's not a short wing. It's rice. They're like little rice bits, and they're crunchy, and they're super salty. Mhmm. And honestly, I'm I'm a little salty because they didn't have them right before I left. That's like my airplane snack, and my wife went to Trader Joe's. She's like, no mochi beds.
Wes Bos
You want our thoughts on anything, or, No. That's not the case in this one. Oh, my gosh.
Wes Bos
Can we get a live break dancing performance? And then we're gonna wrap it up with q and a. So if you have any questions about literally anything, life, love,
Wes Bos
So no, I guess.
Wes Bos
PEI.
Guest 5
Podcast. Questions about the questions about how Canada is. How long you should smoke your meats. Yeah. Smoking meats. So, Wes, You said you, are very much in favor of 4 loops Yeah. Versus using, like, array methods. I I heavily use array methods,
Guest 9
What are
Wes Bos
Anybody from BC? Oh. Interesting.
Wes Bos
Folks at home, the glasses This went flying. Woo.
Scott Tolinski
Isn't there, like, a cheese company called Happy Cow? Cows make cheese. Yeah.
Wes Bos
Yeah.
Guest 9
listening to podcast wise.
Scott Tolinski
Yes. I don't.
Scott Tolinski
Brisket. Really? Pigs are really smart. Pigs are smart. They're very smart. So oh.
Guest 5
but there's sometimes where People make array methods harder than they have to be or a 4 loop would save your bit. But sorry. Go ahead. So my brother just Start as a junior engineer. Yeah. And he went through your JavaScript 30 course. Yeah. And he was using dot 4 h for everything. Yeah. And I had to explain him explain to him about, like, How it doesn't work with a a weight and Yes. Or
Wes Bos
right now, And which is underhyped?
Wes Bos
Oh, Scott likes sick pics of podcast, like, every podcast.
Wes Bos
And cows aren't smart? You ever seen a happy cow? You ever seen that? Where these farmers put these, like, big brushes on a on a spinner, And the cows just go, like Hold on. Let me see. I don't go Happy cows.
Scott Tolinski
May I well, I got a microphone on here,
Scott Tolinski
You know, maybe other people are having those problems too, and that's a good place to start. Last question here. Henri.
Wes Bos
So that makes him smart. Yeah. That makes the cow smart. What cow what kinda smart thing doesn't look a good itch? Okay. Yeah. Oh my gosh. So if like, after today, go home. YouTube, Cows that love itches or something like that. I'm not gonna do that. It's great.
Scott Tolinski
So,
Wes Bos
Why will RN extend much wider,
Wes Bos
oh, itches.
Wes Bos
My favorite we don't have Trader Joe's in Canada, so we just get the, and we were with Joel from Egghead, and,
Scott Tolinski
Wes and I met doing a,
Scott Tolinski
Head on over to Syntax dot f m for a full archive of all of our shows.
Wes Bos
What web tech do you think is overhyped Anywhere. You, Bologna. Just anywhere. Yeah. Oh, it's a hot take for, or a short winged swan Or both? Yeah.
Wes Bos
1st get go is I just
Scott Tolinski
like an alternative to Apollo or something like that. It's, done by Matteo, who does all sorts of Node. Js stuff, and it's Awesome. It rules. It has data loader built in. It has caching built in. Yeah. It works with Redis really well. It's Fantastic,
Wes Bos
With, all the recording gear in it. And he drives around and meets people, Absolutely.
Wes Bos
nature valley. That's a good rule overall. Yeah. Can you name all 13 provinces and territories in Canada? Is it an offline first crypto wallet built in Python, Landscape for partners that are interested in programmatic merchant onboarding and accessing So thank you. Alright. We got a question here.
Wes Bos
talk to people. Talk to people. Yeah. You gotta you gotta see what people are struggling with. That's That's the big thing. Right? You gotta figure out what people are frustrated with, and then just put something out and see if you get traction with it. That's kinda what I did with my videos at the first Ontario. Yukon. No. Let's let's do it in order. Otherwise, we're There's a order? Yeah. Well, you gotta go left to right.
Wes Bos
Thank you.
Wes Bos
you want us to try to explain something
Scott Tolinski
I don't know. I liked,
Debate on usefulness of for loops
Wes Bos
Yeah. Yeah. Who doesn't think we should get types in JavaScript? jerk. I gotta watch my language here. Yep.
Scott Tolinski
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Scott Tolinski
I take. Yeah. I'm I'm fired up. I don't I don't use them that much, but I use them enough where it's like, yeah. Okay. You know? I don't I don't need them, but they're there, and I can use them if I want. You don't need them. I don't need them to be there. Needs for loops? we'll give you the name of something. Yes. And you have to determine if it's a JavaScript library that exists on NPM. Yeah. Or Exactly.
Wes Bos
Yeah. There was a lot of, I mean, ES 5 took what? Like, Yeah. We should explain for the folks that weren't around for that. It took, like I don't know. How many years did it take to get e ES 5 out the door or What or so many it was a huge deal when it came in. Cancel it at some point. So I I think that our standards process is better. Like, we've seen We've seen a lot more come out the door, so I I disagree. I think if we if we're getting static typing in JavaScript, it'll go a bit smoother. I like that. Microsoft will just do it for us. Yep. Who thinks we should get types in JavaScript? we're using to, like like, we we're running banks.
Scott Tolinski
Or just forgot or blacked out ES 4 Harmony and its chaos.
Scott Tolinski
Wow.
Scott Tolinski
done.
Scott Tolinski
You're
Scott Tolinski
People that are excited about for static typing in native JS weren't there for
Kicking It Old School segment
Guest 9
Mhmm. Mhmm.
Wes Bos
coming.
Guest 8
I'm not sure.
Wes Bos
and it would
Wes Bos
What? That's coming.
Wes Bos
The name of this one was also very a very popular It's true. Short winged swan.
Wes Bos
Is
Guest 6
it's I see filter,
Scott Tolinski
Yes. It's What? Oh, you're gonna Prentice, you can have that. Who figured that out?
Guest 6
like,
Wes Bos
3. Alright. 3 more people real quick. Come on down. These ones are easy. Yeah. Alright. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Wes Bos
It's testing for opera, the browser opera.
Wes Bos
Really? 3 selectors do? Underscore padding, Star padding I'm gonna go I'm gonna go I agree.
Guest 10
I started in 2016,
Wes Bos
This is the last one. Why is there a bang
Scott Tolinski
Okay. So we have a hot mic here.
Guest 7
of the
Guest 6
compatibility for stuff in, like, 2017.
Wes Bos
postcode and pasted it. I don't understand how it worked, but it it made transparent PNGs have a transparent background in IE 6.
Wes Bos
and padding 10 p x forward slash 9.
Wes Bos
Back in the day, we had I didn't even I never even thought about that. It's true. Like Nan. Yeah. Because, like, if you get to Nan, something went wrong.
Wes Bos
Alright. Well, we need more people.
Wes Bos
Yes.
Scott Tolinski
Anyone got the name? a term for migrating a video container without re encoding the quality,
Wes Bos
Pretty close. But why do we do this? I I'm wondering if this guy thinks
Guest 10
What is it doing?
Wes Bos
GIF. I mean, the guy just died, and on his deathbed Yeah. Yeah. He's a really good Yeah. Okay. I'll give him that.
Scott Tolinski
bootstrap.
Wes Bos
layout.
Wes Bos
this one is very tricky. I apologize. I I have asked for this one.
Wes Bos
This one's particularly Should I say it? Does anyone know?
Guest 5
Zoom 1. I don't know. Maybe they maybe they added this in 2020, like, from the Zoom company. No. Okay. That's good. This is from, what, 10, 15 years ago.
Wes Bos
And applying this bizarre Do it. Do a little Ah.
Wes Bos
Mister Moo Tools himself.
Scott Tolinski
Man, I this this is gonna be hard, but,
Wes Bos
Why are we doing it this way?
Guest 7
the source object
Wes Bos
Oh, this one Yeah.
Wes Bos
rename itself as an argument to dollar sign, and then you could use it freely inside of that function without worrying about Some other library that use the dollar sign, so it's no longer a global variable.
Guest 99
object
Guest 10
That's not my real voice, Oh, my brother. Oh, I was gonna say that's a good voice. Oh, yeah. My brother my brother wanted me to use it. He's gonna watch this live stream. I love
Scott Tolinski
That's a good question. What's the purpose of it?
Wes Bos
So by adding a 1 pixel by 1 pixel blank GIF
Wes Bos
macromedia.
Scott Tolinski
Okay. What does this line of code do? Specifically,
Wes Bos
PNGs.
Guest 10
so this should be familiar.
Guest 6
Working on working on IE,
Scott Tolinski
Yeah. There we go. Alright.
Wes Bos
It's Zoom 1 for everybody listening on audio.
Scott Tolinski
hopefully those days. When in doubt, you could probably just answer IE for most of Yeah. Yeah. I think that's fair.
Scott Tolinski
Anybody know?
Wes Bos
So people would say, my bank website's broken On Opera. This is before Opera used the engine same as Chrome, you would put you would make a very, Very, very long longer than you could possibly ever need That is not a hashtag for controversial straight cut logging operation in Toronto.
Guest 4
you're passing jQuery in to be consumed
Wes Bos
So Wow.
Scott Tolinski
does this code do?
Wes Bos
I don't know. I'm lost. Alright, folks.
Guest 9
We've got it. The same
Wes Bos
NIEED. Wow.
Guest 7
Alright. Alright. Let's see.
Wes Bos
the dollar sign
Guest 6
But I would just don't remember. It's Probably,
Wes Bos
background gradients and bat and, rounded corners, you if you wanted to have a button or a link And you wanted for that to, Oh.
Guest 4
From the function itself and only in the function itself.
Wes Bos
inside in front of this function?
Guest 10
I'm a give a general answer. It's it's to maintain
Wes Bos
What does this statement test for?
Guest 10
This and that, I remember.
Wes Bos
Give him the mic. Oh, the mic? I have some really cool stories.
Wes Bos
style sheet and JavaScript Like, stands for
Wes Bos
star, and there's actually a whole list of, like, 10 of them, is, IE 6 and 7, And then the forward slash 9 is 6, 7, and 8. So if you had to, Okay. One zero nine. And everybody live streaming at home, you can you can play along as well. Is, BC.
Wes Bos
Alright.
Guest 10
the right this context.
Guest 9
I'm not sure about the second one. I think the third one is for IE.
Wes Bos
Nope. No. It's apparently another way to do an IFFY. Instead of the parentheses, you can just put a bang in front of it, and you can run it again. I wish I had no idea. Yeah. I I 14%.
Wes Bos
if you had a button you wanted to change the background on, It would then,
Wes Bos
pretty pretty wild times. Yeah. Wild times. Yeah.
Guest 9
And the last 1, I think, only new browsers will know how to parse. Pretty close. So it's,
Guest 10
We're not in arrow functions time yet.
Wes Bos
So sliding doors was before we had
Scott Tolinski
Man, the things we did before, border radius or drop shadows. Alright. So this one
Wes Bos
You literally had to change the source object of an image Yeah. Or the source of a background image. And what that would do is it would it would take a sec. Do you remember the load? And it would have to, like, download, and then you would get the background of that button. And then as you hovered it, it would go Oh, wow. That Before we had hover states in CSS, Businesses. And I think one of the sessions we had was make Scott cry about his landing page. Yeah. Because we would meet, like, once every 2 weeks And just be like, hey. Like, what are you doing for email and, like, landing pages and, like, what about, like, streaming bandwidth and random stuff? Because we both make tutorials, Amazing. It actually had, like, a 1000000 downloads too. I'd never heard of this thing. Yeah. Amazing that, like, we're professionals, And this is the name of stuff that we're it was good. And then, like, when we like, we kinda, like, ran that out after a year and a half, and then we're like I was like, hey, Scott. Like, We should do a podcast. And, actually, how I met is that Scott released a course Oh, yeah. Called React for Beginners Yes. I did. On YouTube, which is the name of a course that I already had. And I I emailed him. I was like like, hey,
Scott Tolinski
Let's get some stickers out here. Yeah.
Scott Tolinski
Sliding doors. Who's that? Sliding doors.
Guest 8
Alright. So we're we're we're selecting a list item in the header. The important part is the background
Scott Tolinski
On the left, how How many more we got left so we can 1, 2,
Guest 4
you're calling
Scott Tolinski
In front of the f e. In front of the f e. Oh, that's
Wes Bos
The underscore is IE 6 An arrow. An arrow function. Good. Love it.
Wes Bos
Would be, uh-oh, cops or a package Alright. Let's go hang out after. Yeah.
Guest 4
The first and last lines where Yeah. That's the Jquery. Not the middle line. The fade and suffix button. Yeah. Calls the interior code with Jquery as the context. I mean, it's an I it's like an immediately invoked function. Right? So you're calling,
Guest 10
oh, shoot. There's a confusing that again.
Guest 10
So this,
Guest 4
See if sort is yet. If you have sort in the browser. If you have sort in the browser. No.
Wes Bos
Don't be shy. Don't be shy.
Wes Bos
I'm joking. I'm joking. That's not a that's not real Unless they want to.
Wes Bos
the PNG fix? Why did we need PNG fix?
Scott Tolinski
Nailed it.
Wes Bos
Who figured that out? And the funny thing is that opera back in the day Had an entire
Scott Tolinski
Enforces
Guest 9
Well, the first one is obvious.
Wes Bos
then
Guest 9
That one, I have no No idea. I'm sorry. Anyone know?
Wes Bos
Sometimes.
Wes Bos
Swap image. Yeah. This is probably the hardest one. Sorry, Nicholas.
Guest 6
15 years ago, I was, like, 10. So
Scott Tolinski
I got a hold of it. It is too hard to maintain that that deep voice. You know what I'm saying? Cherry Box. Is this an HTML Canvas utility library
Guest 5
Maybe this is one of those futuristic, APIs that we heard about in the talk.
Scott Tolinski
Beautiful. Thanks, Everybody, thank you. Yeah.
Wes Bos
anchor And the background images and the background anchoring of these 2 selectors.
Wes Bos
3. 3.
Scott Tolinski
This this is a cruel one. Yes?
Wes Bos
the
Guest 9
Yep.
Wes Bos
They heard that tights meant, hot take. Yeah. I've seen that, At the border border patrol show. They're coming to get the Canadian.
Guest 8
thing with petting. I've
Wes Bos
sane guess.
Scott Tolinski
hand, actually. Yeah. Is yes.
Wes Bos
You need to under oh, because yeah. That's the next one, k. Next one. Next one. Lana.
Guest 6
I'm a be honest.
Guest 99
being targeted is an array?
Guest 7
or the source for the image. Yeah. We got an array.
Scott Tolinski
Alright, John.
Wes Bos
and what's the purpose of this? Do you have any idea? Don't give him a sticker yet, Scott, what was this? I'm just hanging out. I got a another Scott. Sick. Oh, it's up, Scott. Yeah. Loading Oh, mic. Scott. Mike.
Wes Bos
is why are we doing the 2nd line? Var that equals this.
Guest 8
Alright. The so it's a GIF background.
Wes Bos
So they had a white background.
Wes Bos
you would likely put different Values in here because it didn't look the same on the same browsers, and you needed to tweak it a little bit here or there. So
Guest 4
So that you can modify jQuery and then Have, like, some kind of, like, attack on it, I guess, or, like so that jQuery is, like, specific to the context that you're calling the function in? I I think that's pretty close. So That's the Yeah. They're really
Wes Bos
You're you're hot. You're you're getting warmer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're you're pretty close there with arrow practice. Yeah? Arrow functions? Okay. It's be we wanna make
Guest 99
Are we trying to figure out if the
Scott Tolinski
What is the name of this technique,
Scott Tolinski
but I have seen this before
Wes Bos
What's this called, folks?
Scott Tolinski
Test. Test. Hot mic. Yes. You are first.
Guest 6
so it probably has to do with transparencies.
Scott Tolinski
How
Guest 7
Looks like it's affecting,
Wes Bos
it would be a very small button. If you had a very long dog. Button, it would, it would extend to it. And at a certain point, if you had too long of a button, you'd run out of out of background image because you couldn't repeat it, Yeah. Because it was anchored. Yep.
Wes Bos
No. No.
Scott Tolinski
Alright. What control SaaS, or both? Or both. Oh, you can see I'm streaming it live. Yeah. Let's look at this. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You can see them coming in.
Wes Bos
that would fix popular websites.
Scott Tolinski
Regex is a bad time. Yes. Regex is a bad time. Word function dot test, Yeah.
Wes Bos
they would just fix websites. They would just, like, monkey patch all these websites And I should say this is not, like, old. Like, we still do this.
Guest 99
Oh, no.
Scott Tolinski
Oh, it's
Guest 8
And that's in the right?
Scott Tolinski
Oh. Nailed it. Yes. So this was to y'all go clap. Yeah. That's how Good deduction.
Syntax Error segment
Scott Tolinski
It is a a curly, Nice.
Scott Tolinski
code, headers.
Scott Tolinski
a default value of
Scott Tolinski
Alright. Who's got this one? Yeah.
Wes Bos
There's 1 extra curly bracket.
Scott Tolinski
I mean, TypeScript is overrated and overhyped. No.
Scott Tolinski
what is wrong with this code? Why did we need
Wes Bos
Initialize
Wes Bos
didn't Why somebody needs something or, like, somebody clearly has a problem, and they say this is how I would like to solve it or within our company. So, There's 2 no.
Scott Tolinski
What's wrong with this code?
Scott Tolinski
is Gosh. God, these are too hard. I'm sorry. This one's actually really not hard. The iframe ref Just do line by line. You'll find it. Return. Don't worry. You didn't put a semicolon there. That's Well, the, first thing we're gonna be doing is we're gonna warm you up with some JavaScript hot take hot take tweets.
Scott Tolinski
Wes,
Wes Bos
L that parent node l that parent node dot and so yeah. Then I heard you comment about, oh, yeah. Poor loops, and I'm like, wait. Am I just saying the wrong stuff all the time? Yeah. So I will reach for a for each or a map or whatever, Nailed it. So the, I could do that too, But nobody asked me.
Scott Tolinski
this is TypeScript, in case you're wondering.
Wes Bos
bcrypt, Yeah. 1st one's obvious. Just padding t 10 p x. I Did we stump the entire audience? if the no. No. No. There's not. There's not. I was gonna say there's even curly bracket highlighting on this one.
Wes Bos
It needs to go before the fallback assignment of the structured data.
Wes Bos
Very good. Impressive. Yeah. Thank you, sir.
Scott Tolinski
Alright.
Wes Bos
Okay.
Scott Tolinski
let's work on this. This is TypeScript.
Scott Tolinski
No. If I did, no. Those are just Mhmm. No. Those are just declaring the type.
Wes Bos
Where? If I.
Wes Bos
Got it. L.hidden
Wes Bos
Who who sees it?
Scott Tolinski
No. No. You're not. That's the that's your Destructuring. Structuring
Scott Tolinski
wait. Yeah. We need a we need a parenthesis. Nailed it. Wow.
Wes Bos
Alright. For West. Alright.
Scott Tolinski
Callback is a callback. It's just being executed.
Scott Tolinski
I had to turn syntax highlighting off on this one. I think so. Yes. The Syntax Hiling would have revealed.
Scott Tolinski
TypeScript.
Wes Bos
Oh, there's no car.
Wes Bos
so So this, the PNG fix was a little library you could add, I sleep at night. I don't use them. I sleep fine.
Scott Tolinski
Alright, Scott. This is itty bitty. No. I'm sorry about that. Okay. I tried to make it a bit harder. Export default. The first thing I'm looking for is, misspelled words, which I'm I'm not particularly
Scott Tolinski
Where did I not put a semicolon? And we need a, Nicholas,
Scott Tolinski
we'll give you the name of a JavaScript Script library that exists on NPM, You're
Scott Tolinski
not right.
Scott Tolinski
What's wrong with line number 8? Oh, float is not a type. Yeah.
Wes Bos
The f's, that's you can do 8 f's because of, What do these
Scott Tolinski
Objects, status
Wes Bos
2, 3, 3 p No. Very good typescriptors.
Scott Tolinski
K. Waiting.
Scott Tolinski
The the error is on line number 8 once again.
Scott Tolinski
something else. Else. Or both.
Scott Tolinski
So the general premise of this is that we will give you,
Wes Bos
You put the arrow inside of the quote of destroy. No. That's that's a string. Oh, yeah. You're right. That's just a console log. Okay. I would I think he used this fancy font with the arrows.
Wes Bos
Man. Okay. God. In the oh oh, the nuts that we can do this Stupid. In in JavaScript. Like, you're like, oh, like, why is the syntax like this? Because people do this. This is stupid. Yeah. I know. It's just not right. Just rich product Then we have a very popular segment called JS or NAS. We're gonna talk about, is it a JavaScript library or something completely different, like a carbon fiber road bike or,
Scott Tolinski
Alright. Tell me. Alright. Well, the error is on line number 8.
Wes Bos
Let's size and number.
Wes Bos
Everywhere.
Scott Tolinski
or,
Wes Bos
I was skipping over the console log.
Scott Tolinski
J S Or NAES.
Scott Tolinski
So anyone wondering, you can do 8 f's there because Transparency. Yeah. Transparency and hex. Okay. It's a good little red herring. You
Scott Tolinski
This one is is,
Scott Tolinski
is it a password hashing library for Node
Scott Tolinski
doing stuff you probably shouldn't be doing. Right. So you're saying that title is a string of my first post as the type?
Wes Bos
your last 2 variables.
Scott Tolinski
or
Wes Bos
Which I don't think that Alright. At all. The,
Wes Bos
Oh, these are this is too hard. Alright.
Scott Tolinski
I'll skip the console log because it's, like, probably not that. It's the console log. I got it. Alright. So this one I gave you highlighting because it's so tricky. Yeah. You Folks. Well, okay. So some background here. I was gonna go somewhat easy on this. Maybe we should've And Wes was like, I got one that's pretty cruel. And I was like, Okay then. Let's, of you got this correct. It is a password hashing library for Node. Js.
Scott Tolinski
This is,
Scott Tolinski
yeah, the error is on the very last line of the code.
Guest 5
Okay. So the type has to go before the assignment.
Scott Tolinski
Very good TypeScriptures. This one's tough to see. Yeah. Should we ask to ask the audience?
Wes Bos
eagle.
JS or NAS audience participation
Wes Bos
sick. You know? It's not QR code. How This is Awesome. Shout out to Pigeonhole. They give it to us for free every time we do it. This is an awesome app that's all built on WebSockets. It's amazing.
Scott Tolinski
cascading options objects
Wes Bos
43% The forgot the first semicolon.
Scott Tolinski
or both?
Wes Bos
There's an option, though. Oh, that's an option? Yeah. Because then you could see it, like, go up and down. Okay. Reveal time. Reveal. What do we got? That's Just A Swan. That's Just A Swan.
Scott Tolinski
Alright. And we have mastermind group Yeah. With a a handful of people that we were just talking, basically, ripping apart each other's
Scott Tolinski
And Nginx package for adding h t t 3 pre h t t
Scott Tolinski
getting good. This one's gonna be really close.
Scott Tolinski
get those votes in. Alright. Just about everyone is in.
Wes Bos
it's just a small block. 50% of you, it is a small I'm not sure how small it is, but it's in a town in British Columbia. Think you can assume if there's Canadian towns in this small. Is squamish.
Wes Bos
That's a term for re encoding video. 65% of you knew the term for re encoding. That seems like it could be a library. That was a that was one where I just made it up. Was like, Remax, that's gotta be a package. Yeah. It's not. I don't think so. They're combining words. There you go.
Wes Bos
Only 99 percent of you knew What is it? function name you would see on ViewSource a lot. I'll make a I'll make a guess. Yes. But I'm I'm I'm guessing this is wrong. Is this something having to do with maybe, like, lazy loading and having a preview image before and then changing to a different image after? Don't think we we thought too much about lazy loading then. Yeah. It's not, actually. It doesn't lazy load, but you pretty much have it. Yep. So this was the code that was generated by, oh. Oh, boy.
Scott Tolinski
68%
Wes Bos
Didn't know it was Bo.
Wes Bos
I have it yeah. 69% I know. I've never seen a Figgy Pudding. What do we got here? It's Bo.
Wes Bos
Although that that's a great name It's a great name. For a a package. You got a logo built in. Yeah.
Wes Bos
of you got it right. It is a vanilla DOM rerendering engine What did they?
Scott Tolinski
Alright. Hajime, Alright. Next one.
Scott Tolinski
Get those votes in.
Scott Tolinski
Next one is Remux.
Scott Tolinski
Oh, reveal.
Scott Tolinski
Is this a full service, self hosted GraphQL
Wes Bos
26 23.6%
Wes Bos
Okay. Well, let's let's We'll just do it from here. How many did you get? Okay. So Who sees it? You Any operation that yields, Nan, should simply throw an error. And this one this one had me go, Manitoba.
Scott Tolinski
Okay. Next one.
Scott Tolinski
That's a great name. And why do you cascading
Scott Tolinski
Hajime.
Wes Bos
Boom.
Scott Tolinski
It's
Scott Tolinski
Is this a JS library for managing and composing
Scott Tolinski
That's a lot of words to say. Alright. This is really fun to see the I love seeing them stream. Stream in? Stream in. Yeah. Sockets, man. Alrighty.
Wes Bos
Oh, oh, core or right here. We're gonna say reveal.
Wes Bos
Yeah.
Wes Bos
or both.
Scott Tolinski
Is this a dinosaur that head butts
Wes Bos
Get those votes in. Some smart folks in this, I liked the how to learn things fast one that I had planned a lot. That was a good one. I I really like the fundamentals episodes that we've done, TypeScript fundamentals, CSS fundamentals, JavaScript fundamentals. Those are, like, good, like, go back to listen to those. Then we had the Wordle guy on Oh, yeah. And, like, he emailed us, which was really, really funny.
Scott Tolinski
database I thought it was, like, somebody named Mike. No. Wait. Where's Mike? His name's Scott.
Wes Bos
Is it a small town logging town in British Columbia, Canada? And so, like, they have these things, and he just, like, interviews, like, a lot of these old, like, skater types and,
Scott Tolinski
Everybody loves Figgy Pudding. I mean, I I don't has anybody seen Figgy Pudding? Who's seen Figgy Pudding? I've never even seen one. Know it from the song. What's Figgy Pudding? Well, it's in that song. What song? That Christmas song. Bring out some Figgy Pudding. Oh, yeah.
Scott Tolinski
There's more votes than participants.
Wes Bos
or both.
Scott Tolinski
Alright. Next one, Figgy Pudding.
Scott Tolinski
Reveal time.
Wes Bos
for existing content heavily inspired by React. Yes. It is, and it is not.
Scott Tolinski
And, like, this is the stuff Oh, Reese. Hold on. I just need to install Figgy Pudding, and
Wes Bos
Squamish.
Wes Bos
Is it a React package to integrate mux videos, So folks who want to try to win at this game, please line up over here. Come on down.
Wes Bos
There it there we go. And now it's now we're working. Down. 61 votes. There we go.
Wes Bos
Tokens.com.
Scott Tolinski
alright. Next one is pachycephalosaurus.
Scott Tolinski
p three compression
Wes Bos
Oh.
Wes Bos
Like, The next one, for loops are not needed.
Scott Tolinski
Voting heads and elbows.
Scott Tolinski
or both.
Wes Bos
Last 1 we have here, Treeact. Is it a vanilla DOM rerendering engine for existing content heavily inspired by React? Is it a hashtag
Scott Tolinski
8.4%
Scott Tolinski
Alright.
Wes Bos
or an actual dense moist Cake I so I followed up to the suite. I'm like, you mean, like, the 4, I plus plus one. Right? And he's like, no. Like, all of them. Like, 4 of, 4 in, 4 regular ass, For,
Wes Bos
to patch other packages
Scott Tolinski
Oh, I knew it wasn't right. It is an HTML canvas. You still live. Yeah. I think there's a lot of cherry stores in Traverse City, but I don't know if Cherry Box is one of them.
Wes Bos
27%.
Scott Tolinski
you'll be right on that.
Scott Tolinski
Alright. Reveal that sucker. Alright. The answer's coming. Get it in.
Scott Tolinski
for the controversial straight cut logging operation in Ontario Get those votes in.
Wes Bos
FreshBooks.
Scott Tolinski
backed by Redis
Scott Tolinski
Let's reveal.
Scott Tolinski
Alright. Get those votes in.
Wes Bos
said Said it was a password Hassling library from Node. Js. Good job. Good job. Alright. Next one.
Scott Tolinski
said it's an offline first crypto wallet.
Scott Tolinski
Gonna reveal,
Wes Bos
of you.
Wes Bos
or a cherry store in Traverse City, Michigan, or both.
Wes Bos
None. None. Wow. That's surprising. Wow. Yeah. None. I would've thought at least 3. Alright.
Wes Bos
or both? That was a cool one. Yeah. Lot these ones are really fun in person.
Scott Tolinski
Reveal time. See it.
Wes Bos
Oh, I'm impressed at this one. Yeah. Me too. Folks,
Debate on usefulness of TypeScript
Wes Bos
I got I'll give you a free course. Scott probably give you a free course. Whatever you want. Maybe some of those we can just make up guests. Free Hasoor for 10 years.
Wes Bos
sorry. Alright. Let's move on to next section.
Wes Bos
What does this code do? What's it do? What does it do? And if you I got stickers.
Wes Bos
I'm
Wes Bos
Next one. Some claps go ahead. Hold on. We got we got too many of these. Let's let's go through here a couple more.
Wes Bos
Kicking it oh, we'll go back to that. We could talk about hot takes all day long. Yeah. We can talk about it. Long. Kicking it old school. Alright. This is the section of the show And, he could have been a jerk, and then we would never have started Syntax. So Life lesson. Don't be a jerk. Don't be a jerk. Don't be a jerk.
Scott Tolinski
No. Oh. Oh, what?
Wes Bos
Where we are gonna ask you folks to come up. We are gonna show you some code from the last 10 to 15 years, and you're gonna have to guess Good, and he's always kinda dishing on some stuff that they you know, risky stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Like, he asked questions like, oh, I can't believe he asked that. So The Steve O podcast. I think it's called the Steve O Wild Ride. I've been super into that one lately. Yeah.
Debate on enforcing semicolons
Wes Bos
Sucks. It sucks. I know you can do the reduce thing where you return a promise of the next one and, like, no way to live your life. No. You should not be doing that. 4 you can't break early from a a 4 each. 4 loops, I love 4 loops. I don't think they're used often enough. People are too Too hardcore about
Wes Bos
Okay. Let's get the audience. Let what do you think about this? Can't do it. No.
Guest 99
K. K. So
Wes Bos
Oh. Technically.
Wes Bos
and I was like, no. Because, like, a for loop is like, you ever try to sink away inside of a map or for each? plus 3. We're gonna talk about that in a second. On Mondays, we have a podcast called The Hasty Treat. It's kinda focused on JavaScript, HTML, CSS, Node, Correct. It's just a dinosaur that head butts things. It's got a big old Tony played on that, though. Isn't that a good name for a package that would, like, monkey patch? Like, you know, you have, like, a node package. You're like, oh, damn. Like, You have to open the node modules and, like, just edit the code. Smithsonian. Yeah. Better get on there. But, like, if it was you know how, like, Rack Hillman is built by the NFL? Yeah. Wouldn't it funny if it was, like, built by the Smithsonian or, like, a dinosaur museum? Dinosaur museum. So can anyone work at a dinosaur museum? doing a sync away or, Over. Alright. That's a that's a jerk thing to say. Yeah. Because, like, people work hard on this stuff, and I got I got no problem with classes. I don't use them, but I gotta gotta open it up. Yeah. And I don't it's like classes didn't add anything to language. Right? It just was Sugar. It's just sugar. Yeah. I like sugar. Yeah. Thank you. I I don't really use them all that much, but yeah. Not not Alright. On up.
Wes Bos
making everything an array method.
Debate on adding types to JavaScript
Scott Tolinski
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Scott Tolinski
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Scott Tolinski
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Scott Tolinski
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Scott Tolinski
webshate? Webshate. That's what you make. Right? Webshate.
Scott Tolinski
That's what I make. Shadesights
Live podcast overview
Wes Bos
if you have your phone, we have a q and a coming up. Feel free to drop your q's and a's, Wow. That's so that's a joke for people that use semicolons. They used to put the semicolon instead of in front of the iffy because they don't use semicolons. Bizarre way to live your life again.
Wes Bos
if even if we don't even know what we're doing. That's how it goes. Yeah. The URL for today, Oh, so it's like a it's deeper than just taste. It's deeper than taste. Yes.
Wes Bos
Look. What is your unpopular opinion, or what's your hot take in in web development and JavaScript in general? So we're gonna go through them all, hot take for a reason, folks.
Wes Bos
you know QR codes have been around for, like, what, like, 12 years, and everyone always thought they're dumb. Pandemic. Like, like, the unsung hero Yeah. Of the pandemic was the QR code, Then, we're gonna a new section that we've never done so far Kicking it old school. We're gonna go back to who's been a developer for over 10 years here? Sorry. They did anyone else get beer as part of their presentation? Newfoundland.
Scott Tolinski
Next 1 is putting all the imports at the top of each file makes code Extra harder to read, navigate, and refactor.
Wes Bos
and attempt to answer them all.
Wes Bos
breakdancing.
Scott Tolinski
hot take? Hot take.
Scott Tolinski
And you'll be able to vote. So we'll have everyone voting in the audience. Y'all got phones? We're gonna try yeah. Y'all got phones. We're gonna try to trick you on, Some fun JS libraries.
Wes Bos
JavaScript barbecue. Barbecue, Or both or both.
Wes Bos
You know? It's not Nanon. Like, maybe you should've checked if it was a number first. Right? Yeah. Maybe. That's kinda interesting. Not sure how to think about that, but
Scott Tolinski
Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah. Buckle up. Yeah. Buckle up for that one. Then we're gonna do syntax error where Wes and I have sneakily put in some syntax errors into some code, and we're going to try to stump each other With where those syntax errors live, so that'll be a lot of fun.
Wes Bos
Alright. We're gonna start off with some hot take tweets.
Wes Bos
So I'm pretty stoked about that.
Wes Bos
[email protected]/sick when you create a new function, the this context is rebound to that function. So what do you use now to get away from this? And this is coming from the original Twitter Bootstrap.
Wes Bos
I asked people on Twitter,
Wes Bos
So first one we have here is NAN was a mistake.
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Wes Bos
Awesome. Thanks so much for coming out. This a variable or an object that is outside of the loop or or anything like That, then I I'm I'm a big fan of for loops. I I'm not like, oh, for loops for for life. I love everything, but, This was the code generated from Dreamweaver file
Scott Tolinski
companies. We're talking about Century, Alright.
Wes Bos
And, I would I would love to switch to a different keyboard layout at some point, Go to freshbooks.comforward/syntax,
Wes Bos
Enjoying it. Yeah? The reason we did this is because there was multiple libraries Popcorn. That had the global dollar sign variable in jQuery days. Other libraries use the dollar sign. So by passing in the jQuery object,
Wes Bos
soft skills, everything, web development. So hasty treat on a Monday, we do, like, a 20 minute episode, something nice and short.
Scott Tolinski
and Payments hub. We'll be talking about all of those throughout the course of the show. So thank you to our sponsors for sponsoring. Alright. How's everybody doing?
Scott Tolinski
FreshBooks, Northwest Territories? Is that it? Northwest Territories. Northwest Territories. Okay. Nunavut.
Wes Bos
We have a podcast called Syntax, It was because I was like, oh, like, I just when I'm debugging,
Wes Bos
we do
Wes Bos
2 Interesting thought, Scott. Not that hard of a take. Not that hard of a take. But I do like JavaScript. I primarily like JavaScript. I I think every day. I think the form thing,
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Wes Bos
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Wes Bos
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Scott Tolinski
Here you go.
Wes Bos
It's pretty sweet. I went through all of their
Wes Bos
you're accepting money. But if you're building an app that needs other people to accept money or you need to be able to This is from a Netlify serverless function. Okay.
Wes Bos
this is funny thing that happens with sponsors. I send them, Like, I I I feel like I know our audience pretty well. So I was like, hey, you should update your your,
Wes Bos
one of their documentation didn't have fetch in that. I was like, you should show a fetch example. I know our listeners would love that because We talk about that all the time. So it's pretty good SDK. You gotta check it out. Developer.paymentshub.comforward/ It is a Web 3 focused Let's talk about one of our sponsors, Yeah. But, that's good. We should get him to do the intro.
Wes Bos
omnichannel payment solutions. They have an API is super exciting.
Wes Bos
Develop in person point of sale applications and launch a fully featured Would you hire an American or a European developer? European. You guys don't use metric, and it drives you crazy. Oh, man. It was 85 degrees the other day. What does that mean? You were just up here. Plus, it's like, it's a hot 20 degrees out here. I'm like, what are you talking about? Yeah. No. Can't Can't do it. Use the metric system.
Wes Bos
You wanna check it out at,
Wes Bos
I have tons more stickers. I just can't leave them around, so come hit me up. I'll give you more. Let's talk about one of our sponsors, PaymentsHub.
Wes Bos
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Wes Bos
payment transactions through API. So if you're building of course, if you're building, Would you rather have to switch to Dvorak or have to use a MacBook butterfly keyboard? What about it? For a library.
Wes Bos
developer.
Wes Bos
documentation myself. I even sent them, audience here.
New Supper Club podcast releasing
Wes Bos
Canadians.
Wes Bos
some people are much smarter than us. So, we thought we'd bring on some some people, so Buckle up for that.
Wes Bos
Mostly Instagram as well.
Wes Bos
It's pretty sweet. My name is West Boss. I'm from Canada.
Wes Bos
We we didn't see earlier, but does anyone actually listen to the podcast here, Cuddle People? Okay. Good. That was much better than Yeah. Because we were standing behind that thing, and It was just like, hey. Listen. And it's just like
Wes Bos
Yes. Canadians make the best developers. I'm I'm at Wes Boss on Twitter, We can see the numbers streaming in as you're getting it wrong.
Scott Tolinski
You can find me at s talinski on Twitter and everywhere and at level up tutorials.
Wes Bos
I don't think so.
Wes Bos
Woo. Yeah. It's gonna be all interviews with people. We don't do a ton of interviews, and, the type right here,
Wes Bos
so just now, you're gonna know that we are releasing a 3rd weekly episode called The Supper Club.
Debate on using platform primitives vs transpiling
Wes Bos
I kind of agree. I don't think I'm gonna ever, like, totally Let go of my build step. Yeah. But, like, that's why we're pushing for and then you would anchor that on the right, And then you would get, like, the end cap of that button and stick it on the right hand or the left hand side, and it would overlap. That's why, like, the the anchor link that was inside of the list item, And that would be called Sliding Doors. So if you had a short link dog,
Scott Tolinski
Yeah.
Wes Bos
for, like, standards and platform primitives is maybe one day we won't. I like my magic. If we can get types in JavaScript. Yeah. I like a little bit of magic. Little bit of magic. Yeah. Mister Svelte over here. Yeah.
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Wes Bos
Alright. Is that it? That's it. Alright. Let's move on to the next section.
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Scott Tolinski
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Debate on putting imports at top of files
Wes Bos
You should enforce them. Enforce them not being here. People that don't use semicolons,
Wes Bos
I I like it. I don't like it. Because so here, I was refactoring a whole bunch of common JS,
Scott Tolinski
It just adds to jumping around in the file to see what,
Wes Bos
and I was just putting my requires right before I needed them In, like and not always, but in in some of my files. And then it's like, no. You can't do that anymore. So how many of you think you would like to put imports anywhere that you want?
Scott Tolinski
should not be optional. No. I went I don't I don't use semicolons. Who needs semicolons? I'm
Scott Tolinski
Semicolons So Alright. I'm gonna reveal. Get those answers in.
Scott Tolinski
see what something is or where it's used. And, actually, I collapse all mine anyways. I, do a region collapse on there. So Interesting. Yeah. I don't like them.
Wes Bos
Semicolons should not be there at all. Like, the option should be don't have them or entirely.
Hasty Treat podcast on Mondays
Scott Tolinski
On Wednesdays, we do a tasty treat, which is our longer breakdowns into all sorts of topics, really. We, it's super educational, but also a lot of
Wes Bos
fun. And, I think people say, no. For loops are bad. You know? Use use array methods. They're considered harmful. They're considered harmful. You know? Like, I saw a talk on it,