Supper Club × Coding Burnout and Gardening with Anselm Hannemann

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And this is what people also like. Yeah. That's neat. I have a question for you about

So I'm I'm trying to, myself as well because dealing with my time and capacity to learn, which led to my burnout. So,

your garden for a a bit then?

3 days, yeah, we can do an English workshop. I'm I'm pretty sure. Yeah.

there's good stuff in the shops as well.

being built in WordPress.

I'm just on the, story. And I love to hear

What what's your

I've Yeah. And we just started it off, and it was great. It's completely different to A lot.

It's actually, definitely something to note.

realize how good food can be and how awesome it can be to to Grow your own. This is making me wanna do my we have a huge garden up at our cottage, I think, 3 or 4 customers already.

Yeah. Like, what kind of fertilizer?

vegetables,

What is, like, the best feedback we could get? Yeah. A little company need it. So,

I wanna give is

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it's funny that, You know, we're talking a little bit about summary here. And I think oftentimes, you know, people feel like they need to have a deep understanding of all of these things. But in reality, it's more or less Need to have an understanding and awareness of what is even there and at a high level what these things are. So that way, when you need to pick something up, You can then do the deep dive. And maybe you don't need to do the deep dive before you need to, and maybe that's a little preemptive. And so just having a summary

Try to keep on top of it, but the irrigation was always a issue for us. So I have put in sprinklers last summer, so maybe this summer is the

Of course, it it was fine then for a few years again, but, And it was all about networking, So this was pretty interesting because he was not living here. No. He Wow. It's actually only seasonal vegetables, but,

So we decided, well, we go the hard way and we search for, varieties that aren't that

Something something around there. Yeah.

passed. Because I know,

And then you give it to your soil, and the soil will Really love it.

If we grow the same, Mostly HTML, CSS. JavaScript,

common.

And it totally depends on what I buy.

setup.

plant food.

Like, with less

And WordPress powers just about most of the web, so you'll have tons of resources if you ever Need to use in any kind of WordPress things here. You you have WordPress at your side still. So this is a no code solution for WordPress that has tons of integrations,

So actually vegetables, And I think, working in the garden. Okay. So,

Yeah. Something like that. Yeah.

And nowadays, it helps 3 random guys, And Somehow I get stuck on it and started my own business during school.

they say, well, I don't wanna go to the grocery door anymore and buy vegetables there. It it's it it doesn't taste good there.

in my from my own garden. But, I don't know, Twitter, Instagram addictiveness.

Just, like I don't know. As you as you scroll through it, it, like, animates

around 40 varieties or so on our garden. So, we our our main focus for the gardening project is also it. So if both is really? Using the soil better, better farming practices, less pesticides, going Yeah. Of course. I I Yeah. Why why selling this? Helped other people to avoid a burnout and,

website. But I also

we're, Yeah. It it is.

A website that you're making here, including,

It's interesting.

one of the real advantages.

that give you access to having consistent design across your entire

since they are our customers, at first, they were like,

I have a couple times tried to

What do you recommend for plant food? So,

I think we have Best would be your own menu. Like, not the bought one, but, you do it yourself, and you mix up everything you can get.

we wanna grow things that you can't buy in the fell into a burnout.

However, we have some sort of irrigation. It's not a permanent,

Sure. Yeah. So,

I'm happy that they that we lost these customers.

API. They have a huge Yeah. My my sister has a bunch of chickens, and she gives us the eggs.

give a summary here.

and

here, we have a lot of rain. We usually don't have a problem with I I couldn't do

yeah.

So it's, Yeah. Brown brown and and earth tones for me are not, kind of a no go too for thieves. Yeah. It it I think it doesn't work for my eyes. I don't know. Yeah. Likewise.

Yeah. And are you That's that's all you need to keep in meters. Canada. Yeah. I don't. We don't. But I, yeah, I I I can kinda figure it out. Yeah. We don't bend to people who use miles. I don't know. 3 miles or so.

petrol based, Oh, nice. So that's good.

and, you know, JavaScript.

yeah, that's Part of our goal that people, just with a few hours a week. It's it's totally possible. And Yeah. We used it last year 3 times or so. So bad or non existing My mind was completely blown away

fertilizer?

work really well together. Too often times when you use some of these things, You're just kinda dropping in your stuff into something. So, this is guaranteed to look good here, and it's a really great alternative to some of these other no code solutions while maintaining your application

like, is it all is it all garbage? I I know,

one time, like, soil treatment. So I'm wondering,

Wow. 1 one could, but,

And we tell the people, well, there's more than what you can find in the store.

And I think we

is is more than enough to Get a lay of the land in terms of, like, what's out there and what what do I need to have on my radar,

back and forth. I just love

on the website now trying to convert the German into English here.

Yeah.

Since I have everything in summer from my own garden, I I don't mind buying something in winter.

It helped a lot of people.

marketplace full of all kinds of integrations. So if you wanna, Like, okay. Well, like, I have a Svelte or a Next. Js or, like, literally, it will work with anything,

spin that sucker up, point it at a database,

mixed menu.

So that's the best you can do. And when you say your own your own manure, do you do you literally mean your own Manure, or do you mean to make it yourself?

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How sweet is that? They do a great job at

with this email sender or I wanna do,

I'm giving workshops on that topic, which Oh, nice. 3 pieces. To hear that.

do ecommerce with it. You name it. They you can integrate it with it because it's just a JavaScript based CMS

If you come over, I'm promising, still in school. So I just tried to make my own website.

having your brand's assets really just,

out the other end, you get a full, like, gooey for actually editing all of your content, and then you also get,

What do you what do you feed your plants? Like,

lot of things,

I think code great websites now.

I would say we have the best soil in our Mind sinks. That's I I love all of that. That's, And, I mean, it it took us half a year or so to get used to that. And now it's feeling great, but The half year, it wasn't, Like, not following up On any idea you have, but if you if if the idea is really stuck in your head for a couple of weeks and you realize, well, this Could be an opportunity that could work out really, like business wise, but also for

it should be really, And, I mean, I've been doing

At minimum 1 year that is laying there.

you get a workshop in English. Alright. My wife speaks German, so I'll just bring her as a Even better. Translator. Cool.

a store to to purchase food, Just, like, straight up, is there anything that's even worth worth your time there, or is it,

We were told you gotta you have to, you know, regularly use plant food, but I've always just used, like, a seasonal

and,

is it called shovel and fork translated to English? Exactly. Yeah.

That's great. So what type of stuff do you grow?

and maybe that's all you need. Right? I mean, even,

30 meters away.

Yeah.

very small river nearby.

The time to go forward with that. Do do you have irrigation as well? Like, is this is this land that you Do you wanna give us a,

I I think it's, not all year round, but I know people who are and we can exchange.

do you do you use anything like,

probably different from the garbage. But Europe to Canada to US as well. I'm sure, but maybe content. I I have no clue how US stores

is near where you live, or do you have to travel to it? And he just pulls stuff out and fixes it, and he's very much about

So it's 10 minutes by car.

And I I realized, well, why not doing that in a little bit of a bigger style? after one of the jobs for a publisher.

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Today, I'm doing I try to

Full cook all the time. Otherwise, you're gonna,

and it didn't feel great.

that That kind of stuff is very fulfilling to me, and it's my very aggressive take at not trying not to get burned out on this type of thing because,

API in no time at all. In fact, we got a demo of HESR in just about no time whatsoever.

We do both end up having your phones on the, like, wireless magnetic stands right next to the bed, and then we have, like, little Google displays are there for, like,

they just should do

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Yeah. We we could talk irrigation in a bit, but,

is that's causing a burnout. And it's usually a combination of, And, So this is, not a not a Happiness at work with the job you're doing apps, It's not a problem anymore. These days, we we manage or one of the default ones.

I don't know. Since I'm doing this, It was working And, There is I

Therapeutic. Exactly. Yeah. Awesome. Well, that that is kind of an unreal

How do you know the code snippets

it's a problem.

I guess it's really,

Yeah. And it's But it was fun, and I was, money wise.

it's it's not really no TV, is it? These things are all basically

hasura.infoforward/free

I think regardless of what you're doing, it's so important to have Awesome.

That's hilarious.

But, changed It's such a complex thing. I read something on some side. I got into another side. And

gladly, I found my brother, magazines I'm serving like 100 people

It feels great Still because I can focus more on my own things in programming.

Just endlessly important to get away. Yeah. And as Wes already said, it's a spiral.

We had data relations. We had emails being sent, and we had subscriptions

An initiator.

You know, we we did, like, no TV in the bedroom, and I was thinking we're not gonna have a TV in our bedroom ever. Right? But

you hear a lot of people, oh, I'd love one day. I'd love to to garden or to do woodworking. And I I see it in some of my own friends where they are trying to squeeze in a hobby

and your personal

experiences, I I wasn't sure what the problem was.

what my hour is worth

and you'll get 3 months of the Hasura cloud standard tier for free. Now only the first 100 people can get that code. So,

If it's not the right thing, then just stop and change and think about it again. So It's the boxier toilet,

Of people that actually, like, went for it because

switching off the phone completely is so important.

my Mondays always feel that much better because Because that's an amateur here.

in a real GraphQL

Yeah. So

or So this was difficult. And even

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Hobbies or some sort of other thing to put your time and energies into. And,

that's one thing I get all the time on specifically on Instagram, on Twitter a People always ask me because I'm I I do all kinds of stuff. I put a hitch on my trailer on our car last week, and I do a lot of electronic Stuff, and I'm propagating hundreds of hydrangeas in in the garden right now, and I did a huge sprinkler. Like, I'm I'm always into something, Why are you installing your own trailer hitch on your your van? gives you a real time GraphQL QL API when you point it at any of your existing data. Strapi, they are a JavaScript based

if I if I could spend all all weekend landscaping,

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in the evening because

I'll sit down and, like, have My Nintendo Switch out and then my iPad with a hockey game on it and then my phone, and I'm just, like,

you feel so much more refreshed. I know me me, personally, I have I I I don't do necessarily a ton of gardening. We have a a few boxes, and, you know, we we grow some things. But For me, like, landscaping is the same way where, Wes is making that up, by the way, so don't don't take that back, please.

no. But This is not great.

their Their work is is starting to burn them out. And honestly, I think that

except I have one rule in my house.

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Yeah. So I things to collect links.

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your family, your friends, whatever, anytime away from Screens is is is important, and I have such a huge trouble with that. You know? I I'll

Check your phone or, like, do you just still want to sneak in a little bit more coating? Or is it just like are you at a point now where you're like, I'll I'll go and check it out when I'm interested, but, like,

this feels great. And today Yeah.

or your own other servers. It's really super neat, And your data is stored in a Postgres database. So

I can do whatever I want again.

At latest, I think, mostly front end development.

You're getting away from screens. You're you're you're getting to interact with the the the real world to get your hands dirty and stuff. It feels very,

And I'm Totally. Often scared at the amount of people that ask me that because it's like, you should be doing this stuff

That's kinda cool. Yeah. It it is great because We we started in bedroom eliminating the phones, and it was always all that kind of stuff. And it was like, of 1 person, one day a week. Yeah. Oh, that sounds good. Which is great for, I think, we we have 2,000 square meters, whatever that is in they they taste better We motivated them to do this, and I I said I started with front end development, then Yeah. Got full stack, then I think, I like blue.

food.

well, mixed feelings.

trial. You can use the code at tryhasura,

Themselves, not not to study anything, but just to go on my own business.

Yeah. I think that what's the most important is just Having time away. You know, having spending that time whether it's with your

then check it 2 times a day.

and only 20% coding programming anymore. Yeah.

60, 80%

I I I think during day, During birthday, CSS in JS tools, You will never Yeah.

I I have more fun coding again. And it's it's just great because it motivates me. It Sounds weird, but, And Incorporate that.

after I'm clocked off for the day Because, oh, well, instead of installing a trailer hitch on our van, I could crank out another course and make this much more money. Mhmm. That that's a downward spiral, It's really, really cool. You can fully customize it yourself. You can n p x create Strapi app and get up and running in Just a matter of time. Plus, they have a really cool website. Go to strappy. Io and just, like, scroll through the website.

That is

I'm not sure where you're at with that.

Your screen usage has gotten to the point where it's a problem. Like, you need to unplug. You need to go do something else and you need to likes because you you it makes you anxious. It makes you depressed. It makes you overloaded, burnt out, all those things. And, yeah, it's it's yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And

So you start sitting too much in front of a screen, and then you Look into the screen and into the other one, and you check up your smartphone at night. And Yeah. It's just yeah. If you can't escape, And I just took the chance and

Wow. Wow.

Like, what is that what did that look like?

Oh, wow. Interesting.

And I love Doug, you're on sprinkler lines like that. I think that's an outrageous and he didn't even have to write any data loaders whatsoever. And, you know, When you're getting into your own custom GraphQL servers, that can be a big pain point when you're trying to optimize these things. So what you're gonna wanna do is head on over to hasura.info.

difficult to achieve it and really do it. And Then we decided, well, let's just put on airplane mode, and it's so easy to circumvent that. It's so easy. Yeah. So I Tried that, and it's the best choice ever. And all the neighbors that are using my Wi Fi,

Like you, I've been at it for 15 years, and I often get people ask me, what's your time worth, bud? Like, why are you

You're just with the nature, with Earth, and you're connecting with that and coming down. And it's It's just rewarding to and I collect everything from these variety.

surrounding myself with Screens. And my wife is a a psychologist, and she'll often be like, listen.

Yeah. But it worked out to to get away from that, More into The LG 5 k display.

I think It changed a lot in the past.

And, I worked for Couple of clients, big, small, medium size.

Yeah. Everything

was And he has also like these, today I learned section where he posts random snippets while I not not I I have a lot of sources, but gardening Have which is a lot of work and I, No.

And it was my parents, for example, they they weren't happy in the 1st place when I Told them, I'm going to change my job.

And web standards, when I had my 1st burnout, I didn't realize early enough.

so this was a great time.

I had struggle I I have struggled before,

attracted me. So it it was these Well, however

the same time when we had, when CSS 3 and HTML 5 arrived.

5 years ago when I realized, well, something is many people do. So that's a good So, I mean, I'm I'm only producing you're gonna burn out real quick. Yeah. It's so so important that people also trust to keep the the whole garden clean in, Even that is great.

really new to all the people, and I got to events and conferences and gave talks about stuff.

great and not like 15 years ago, for example. Mhmm.

Yeah. But also, they regulate,

One day You can just forget about everything in This was when the idea came up of Making a market garden where and that I shouldn't

Okay. So that is grassland or,

Let me let me convert that. That's something we use in Canada.

It's 21,000

Yeah. The soil and the animals in the soil, yeah, I I know, so

This is where we farm the vegetables.

yeah, just nature, I I I don't think entirely, but, I'm not up for it. Yeah. I have so much other material. I don't need it. For the amateur, if you're walking into contract on a much bigger area.

and it's amazing what people invent there.

They also produce some manure and fertilizer.

your,

21,000

Half an acre. Okay. That makes sense. Half an acre. Okay. Yeah. That's that's pretty big. That's and you you farm all of that? Yeah. How is it called? Welding.

So,

but it's mostly for eggs for ourselves.

for all the bees and birds and We lost,

Not sure.

overall.

Oh, 2 and a half acres is 1 hectare.

One hectare, 2 square.

square feet.

We have 1 hectare, what It's 10,000 square meat eaters.

Let me let me convert it to square feet. I think 4 acres or something like that.

So it's mostly mechanical, but it's so useful that, Like the green stuff, the plant stuff, the some from horse shit or something like that. And you just mix as much variety as you can, And then leave it for 1 year so that it's pretty ready.

square feet.

weeding got so easy for us.

2 acres. Acres is kind of what we use up here.

And have a have a great network where you can I I just Yeah.

I I like green, brown themes from the literature.

gladly, the brother of my wife, is really good at that. So All good.

JavaScript itself.

Yeah.

Out of wood stuff. So I then Monday off, Which is not great because it's Monday and everyone else works.

SVG, We have a lot of tools for that, and the tools are really, really helpful.

and I think it's important to to keep doing that

microphone.

I have no clue which theme.

If you have one piece of advice to beginners, what would it be? I think it's learning the basics.

Yeah. Yeah. That's a really good point. Awesome. Well, is there anything we didn't touch upon

so I can do

Oh, wow.

So yeah. That's a really good point. Like, I that's how I got into coding. It's just poking around out of interest that I have,

NT 1,000

Totally.

text editor and Advice you'd give? We we can do as you want. Alright. Let's let's go through them and and see what we have.

What What text editor and a theme do you use in your text editor? Text editor in terms of text editor or code editor? which is an incredible back end for your data that It's out a GraphQL

Studio Code, and And you will struggle always with CSS if you don't understand the basic principles. And if you only started with one of these,

Let me The dark one. Use green based themes for your

And then with the basics,

Gardening based themes for you.

Dark plus.

Code editor.

A dark one.

CSS, custom stuff for crop planning and that kind of stuff, but,

I'm not good at metal stuff, like, Yeah. Just to find the links that I shared didn't have And Wi Fi is shut down at 11 PM.

in your life.

It's I don't think it's a useful advice for

Okay. I think that that one is a standard

But now they are super happy

It's just about connections.

No keyboard externally.

This Rode gladly, I realized myself.

More supportive to me now.

that is worth talking about burnout or gardening?

exchange things and Share your knowledge. So that's important in gardening, in life, in IT. That's Yeah. Yeah.

Sottering. Oh, welding. Sottering. Yeah. Welding. What else? Welding, soldering, and brazing are the 3 Not really bad. Yeah.

But,

I'm using dark plus.

So you still got the gear. Still got the gear.

What key what computer and keyboard do you use?

gluing the metal sticks together.

look at the libraries peppers, we need more land to to grow more vegetables,

Yeah. PS code 1. It says default

monitoring,

so it makes sense to buy the huge tractors.

with magic and robots and AI, figure out,

around the farm, and they're able to somehow,

know little about

the the problem I see well, I'm too small. I I know that I can't purchase it, but

the new company as well.

and he's always showing me both, like like, next level next generation tractors, which are much smaller,

my knowledge from IT into

And I think it's also the problem that most of the farmers have that are they that don't have the knowledge.

large farming

in in terms of And, Thanks for having me. Oh, absolutely.

But it also costs a lot of money, so you need to be able to do this. And Like, for us, it's a business, but the problem is it's not profitable yet. Okay.

Just want to grow food, but they don't know how to

what needs to be tilled so farmers don't over till? I believe that what it was. So Yeah. Alright. That stuff. So my my brother-in-law is a a huge farmer,

behind you, And we can mow as well with it. So that's pretty practical. And without it, it would be much more work. Oh, yes. Yeah.

in all these big machinery. You need to be really, really big

who works for a company,

mini tractor with just 2 wheels, and you have a tiller,

Soil density inventor,

And, I mean, there's amazing development in the manage and keep up to date, but, for me, it's one of the most vital

Not for the farming itself. We we met a guy at Reactathon

I'm not sure if you know.

it's A customer journey.

there are so many in between farmers. And they think they need to buy it, but they really don't need.

for the small farmers, it's It's not worth investing Like, 25 But at the same time, I still was really bad at, Many things at home.

marketing grassland.

or basically they take soil density readings from scrapyard.

We use the computer and all sorts of Excel and in my own garden. Nice. Yeah. So this is really nice because, You're welcome, and thank you for inviting me. Oh, absolutely.

Apart from that, I tried to not put any robotics or something like that into my farming.

Like, you get more of them, but they're smaller instead of these massive diesel ones. Yeah. So that that's just always interesting to me as well. It's probably far from what you do. Like, you you don't even have a tractor, do you?

So I I believe that, And with that, you know, I'm incorporating So many people have awesome ideas, but they they don't follow-up on it. And they they are too anxious to really try it. But Yeah. Often I mean I mean, even with gardening,

sell it. And, on the fields, help the farmers nearby, I don't know. Yeah. Okay.

creating the website for for the shop and for Oh, yeah.

sector I didn't know of in my life. And What is Different to sitting in front of a computer.

and he builds

that are useful in society,

And nowadays, I it's Completely vice versa. And, I still didn't Manage for myself 100%.

And when I moved out into a village, in a small village here, 50 kilometers south, No. It's it's a small to They're just fine, Jack. I read an article, and I

If you're just a small company, it's just why?

I making firewood, Yeah. It's it's interesting because I I really want to However, after school, I don't know. It's just I I get lost in these topics because it's so it's such a huge area, and I couldn't talk for hours. Yeah. For real. Yeah. I think the most important thing,

having skills

to help in the forest, to help

which is and is is that, like, a German thing, or is it just the fact that 2 of you are German?

I had the opportunity

when I lived in this big city in Munich,

just depends as always. That's cool. Is I I follow another guy on YouTube called the the post apocalyptic

the, like, not the trash, but where you go to recycle scrap metal,

I didn't notice either. Yeah. He has this YouTube channel where he is constantly he just picks stuff Out of the, Why don't you just bring it to it? Or why don't you pay somebody to paint your house? Or, Like, why are you doing that? And I'm like, because

but, actually, I I had no clue on life. I would say no.

And he is do you know who that is?

not everyone needs a Huge blown up website.

cutting trees, It's it's crazy because I'm learning so much from my own writing now.

it it felt like, Well, I can do everything with a computer, but I have no clue how to survive if something crashes down in the system.

buy a lot of this stuff, and they are always running empty and money. And it's just Sad that they don't realize that they don't need it. Yeah. Wow. So as as in tech, I mean, salads, a lot of types of various salads.

what We sow it into the beds and we till it into the beds when it's like 5 centimeters high.

and, We have, like, these 2 wheel tractors.

Time wise. Oh, why? So it's pretty late for you right now. It is. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for,

Yes. That were wild times.

also, started doing things with Photoshop Per month or every week, what is happening in web development? dryness.

so back in 2003 Only later, I realized What the real problem And

those pixel table stuff.

for coming on so late.

it it varies a lot for my collection. And Yeah.

things to stay up to date? So in the past, it was nearly 100% Twitter. Nowadays, it isn't anymore. I'm not sure what changed and when it exactly changed, but I have the feeling that Twitter

Apart from that, hacker news, And we also have great soil where we have the garden. So Oh, nice. That's, industries.

which is the last missing bit. And it's so nice because it comes into a plastic box that you can area here, Like, 50 kilometers or so.

on your carrots after the fact. That's great. Yeah.

for a full archive of all of our shows.

or my Twitter stream changed.

There is, Driving a tractor,

resources for finding,

you can get around with other, like, Framework knowledge, but, Yeah. HTML

I think

Oh,

Alright. Hopefully, we got that done before 11 PM.

there you can find all the posts and pictures, which is the most important Last year

And apart from that, if you're interesting in more of my thoughts Yeah. But, our clients, they really And apart from that, we have mostly mechanical tools. Yeah.

web design weekly is yeah, I considered, well, what can I do else? the stores are cheaper, so why go to us? So cows and sheeps were standing there for the whole year, Eggs, it's it's just totally different to the best ones you can buy in the stores. Yeah.

go into Instagram of my gardening I I have the feeling that it's nothing new there.

on Instagram.

Alright. Thanks again. See you.

you need these summaries. How do you how do you stay up to date with this stuff? Is it just looking around, googling around? What are your what are your

€150? Box your toilet.

for my camping van, I know how to drive tractor. I know how to make firewood, how to build my own bed the the demand for summaries is there. It's still there.

Staple and organized, and it's not even expensive.

And what Scott, you got one more? Yeah.

Especially because you're you're publishing, I know,

come to a point where you will be happy with the CSS.

garble

Interesting. So that goes you have a camper van? I think it's it's

talking.

go turn your Wi Fi off now.

Enjoy. Just Not particular. I I don't even know which exactly I'm following. It's a huge list of RSS feeds I have in my reader.

It's chauffeur

worth mentioning. CSS CSS Weekly as a newsletter.

I I really don't know how exactly it works.

I don't know. I'm I'm just stumbling over links somewhere.

Man, RSS is super underrated still

And,

So if you struggle with it, there are a lot of good summaries. I mean, Then it's the 2nd sign, and then it's really time to do something.

Yeah. In 2022.

profile.

kind of the interesting stuff around your You're gardening. That was really cool, so I appreciate it. Yeah. Likewise.

on what I shared Today, let nature And I had a burnout, so if you're interested in the gardening stuff, Because,

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similar thoughts or deeper thoughts on that. Yeah. Cool. Awesome. Cool. Thank you so much for coming on. Really appreciate you sharing everything that, you've gone through and like a full blown either a REST API or a GraphQL

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He's got kind of a really nice little website here. I'm not familiar with his work, but,

less links and useful article sharing into more personals They It's a MacBook Air M1.

I think, 3 months or so, So I still don't have Twitter on my phone, for example. I I don't have the feeling that I need it anymore.

And it was for one and a half years, So that's So in winter, I need to go to the shops and buy something.

a small burnout,

I realized only later that I was sitting in front of my computer, and But, now in the 2nd year, we manage quite Fine.

took some time off, All the weeks, and it was get the crops and see what you've done and achieved. So And we don't need to carry this stuff away, And so, And also, if you're if you ask your friends, and they need to be good friends. They need to be honest to you. And if they if you are ask them, well, 100% indicator,

all the weekends.

anything.

Not working

all the time in front of computer and, doing multitasking all the time.

But it was the first sign that something is wrong So, these days, it's But, this scene, they they just try out new tools, we we write a newsletter. It's part of our success story That we communicate with our customers in a very, very interactive and deep way, etcetera.

a great job, but still so exhausting that I

hours, And

more sports.

as a side business or I I mean, not even.

I I was always gardening, it was cabbage, Maybe it's part of a German thing.

Like, for myself, a little bit.

feeling great. So I have less time these days because I'm a gardener mostly

It was planning, I think, 1 or 2 years because I don't own any land, so I had to search something in nearby. And it's not that easy, and you have to make some sort of a business plan. I mean, I I just wanted to do that as a 50% to serve also German guy. Really, really nice summary.

And

somehow, gardening attracted me. Yeah.

But on the other hand, yeah, combined both things If you use your own, you need to be a little bit careful. And food or vegetables in summer right now, Or meaning from April to November.

I I love to read 4 hours a week. That that's not a problem.

I I mean, they summarize but, yeah, it's it's really like you say.

I I was really good From the beginning when I started this project at, summarizing everything, so I never had,

And I was always happy to read, and I'm super interested in that stuff. So did different stuff. And it was better again afterwards.

I I was always happy to read, and I decided, well, And the reason was, Well, I wanna try growing my own food now

that we're

that fear of missing out myself.

to to tackle the problem of fear of missing out.

what I mostly wrote for smashing back, like these update posts, does.

And it was always great feedback on it. So I think,

other people are struggling with that. So I wanna share that. What I know, what I felt important this week, this month, I wanna share that with others. And

and normal store. Because Okay.

I went on the civil service. And after the civil service, I had so many clients already And everyone asked, why are you doing this? You can't come from IT. Why are you going to farm now? They're getting burned out on, farming? it it was always job or so.

that I decided Yeah. It's unreal. Yeah. And I mean, the garden, by reading a 1 minute piece every week.

called e papers, called, And we're Currently, my website has a blog a writing section, and you can find a lot of yeah.

by coding all the HTML five Marketing, PR, I had a lot of rules. I tried, Bit history.

So I decided, well, what about publishing? Life around I don't know.

afterwards, I realized, well, okay. So publishing is nice, but, I'm A lot of RSS feeds.

Interactive 3 or 4 hours before going to bed, etcetera, etcetera. And it worked fine, but it was really restrictive, Little bit difficult, so they decided to do these digital publishing stuff, acres we have, it right now, and they have a huge demand, it seems.

stuff, into these apps.

Yeah. And, So, Yeah. Sure.

then, it was the times where print publishing was other people because it's so chaotic, It just depends on The most common answer that,

done a couple of career moves.

that was pretty lame back then.

15 years now in history. Yeah.

And it it was really, really interesting because it was mixing 2 I think it's The main reason why people love the newsletter and why And I went into print publishing, Visual It it's hard to

And went on for, I think, So, said in the beginning, but wanna repeat on it, is years after, and they they couldn't be

it just needs to be explored. Yeah.

Yeah. That's fascinating. I just love how like like, this is not like a side project. This is a business. This is a full blown business. You're running your workshops. You're selling the crops.

Looks like you have a bit of a a blog for it as well or you have updates

maybe a few words on that.

for the crop. That's just awesome. Some.

So the size of the area is Too small to it calms me down.

2 families, yeah, we're nothing else than the stores ahead. And, I was just sitting there reading emails, but even

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I I think we I mean, I have my own vegetables, Well, let's try that. It's it's actually a great idea.

and really golden. I don't know if the color makes a difference, but they taste great. I mean, I I think the color indicates the quality. Yeah. Okay. Problem is, well, industry understood that, and they added some Colorizer So, actually, one could. We don't because we also sell the food, etcetera. And it's just yeah. Yeah. It's comforting. It's a little weird. I know a lot of people who do it, and, these times where, Well, other people can profit from what I grow. So, We have chickens, like, I think right now it's 9 chickens. Yeah.

I I can't go back to the store eggs. It's funny you talk about, like, people

we farm, all the day, in reality.

thinking, oh, this is this tastes better. Like, my whole life, I've eaten store eggs. I mean, like, these are good. And then I got some from her. I'm like, like, the yolks are creamy and

time intensive minimize our usage of fertilizer, and Blain's a lot of small details, and it's so great because you learn a lot It doesn't have weeds. It just depends how you deal with it. And, I just I think 1, 2, 3 years later, when I had similar So it's 15 years of being a freelancer in web development, So this is just for fun. I mean, they help us a little bit.

how you can do this is quite a challenge because it's variety So I'm living I think it's 8 kilometers.

A a few weeks after, that is fertilizer for the next plants.

It's not really great for many of them.

compost it, and then put it on the beds Again, it's just not necessary anymore.

work it is

Once you have your own

use other tools, other techniques, and just

to their Yeah. To their food. Yeah. Yeah.

But, now in the 2nd year, I think we're doing fine. And,

as 2 people with, each of us, like, 60% And they usually don't tell you in in, like,

Yes. Yes. They they really got burned out or are burned out since years, but they have no other choice. So it's it's put into our, cucumbers, tomatoes, Programming to coding. And Yeah. I don't know.

Letting nature do what it is good at. So for example, we till, in a bad mood or something like that.

It doesn't work with every single what they think they should do.

So there are ways it So that would be really, really nice if it works.

As people used to. Because when I talk to farmers here, they are all overworked, and they don't earn a lot of money.

not much of time for that big of a garden.

we we have green manure.

in in regards to the fertilizer, we try to what I buy and what is worth it.

sorts of a newsletter.

Kinda goes by. Like, do you is there I we talk about FOMO, fear of missing out, and then there's also JOMO, the joy of missing out.

I think that's when I decided, well, To explore how can we do it differently,

SPAs and all the frameworks got out of hand and every week a new one came out, but And Mhmm. Like, you can.

why bother?

It's called the web development reading list, which is, They they're they had a mind shift because That's that's really cool. Yeah. So in regards to a business, my mental health, for what I wanna do. Just follow-up on it and try it out no matter what other people say about it. Because

I'm still up to date when I know all the basics or, for example, with carrots, it's harder. But It works with a lot, and it saves so much time.

Do you worry about that, or is your are your skills at a point now where you're just like, I could learn that if I need to? Well so I I think at some point when

and all the small details. They change over time. They change in 3 months. That's not a problem. If you want to learn it, if you need it for a job, you can learn it very quickly. So that's not a problem.

No. I mean, it was every week a new framework, but then it's still view and react, so So this is pretty interesting to, That

So, like, if I were to

If you're on the top, you won't notice. But if you're like in 1 third or at the half, it's by just I mean, you can't not or you need that some time to to care about the garden, but still you can do it as a side business or wow. This is early. Well, now. Yeah. So I need to focus well, I I have some time to read now. I collect the links. I summarize and and I realized, well, what changed since the last month,

have a list of the,

There should be signs and go into the details. But the basics, you will always need them.

like, this is stressing me out. While

if you really think about it, it's not or sales or something like that. They myself, I'm I'm googling on my own site Other animals.

So that's some first sign.

How am I talking to you? Am I a negative person?

idea to ask them. Yeah. Do I know you you wrote for Smashing Mag for, what, like, 7 years or something like that. I just checked. Like, you have over a 100 articles on Smashing Mag.

other people will realize it. They will notice that you're always And so they Continue doing it like before, so I started doing more fun stuff, on the weekends, there's my Newsletter, of course, but there is smashing mag. There is CSS tricks.

And, like, do you not feel or do you care anymore about how quickly this type of thing,

In advance or when they realize it. But if you ask them,

And they say, well,

burnout stage,

10 most dialed in up to date people, you would probably be on that list.

hard or it it's not that much of work. But you still are totally stressed out on the tasks.

You were happier before or something like that.

Am I happy?

when you go into that

and then sorta like what happened

no code website builder for word Press, which is pretty sweet. We got a no code episode coming up. No next week for you, so stay tuned for that. We'll talk about all these companies partway through the episode. So I saw this video, I don't know, 6 months ago or something like that on burnout,

in in in web development Yeah. Yeah. That's a that's 3 days Swedish flight on to Germany.

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Hahnemann. Did I get it?

of who you are, what your background is,

Oh, I'm starving.

So I'm, I think, 9 to 10 hours ahead of you, I just variables and names. Yeah. Yeah.

to lead you to growing things in the ground,

as well as becoming a developer.

CMS.

So I'm Anselm. I'm from near Munich, Germany.

I don't know, a couple minute rundown

Burnout and and how you deal with it. And and also just, like, I I also wanna talk about,

Yeah. Maybe a little over pronounced.

growing things as well. Or whatever else Yeah. Gardening as well. Yeah. Whatever else pops up. So, welcome. Thank you so much for coming on. Yeah. Hello.

Well so, I mean, for example, the all the business stuff is totally useful for farming as well because business is business. It doesn't matter on the industry.

in exchange and communicating and, My brother lives there. He has, like, always a spiral downwards.

to have that as the main income.

these already established skills that I have in in these following ways.

So, But, we have half an acre of, vegetable farming land. Yeah. Wow. And do you have check do you have chickens?

Do you do you think you'll you'll reincorporate There's lots of neat things like dynamic text personalization,

some of your tech skills no more no more messing around with resolvers and mutations and who knows what Trying to manage your own GraphQL server. And let me tell you, no more data loaders. That was one thing I was really impressed about in the demo is that he set up some relations for us in no time whatsoever,

Into this operation at some point, is this is that is that something you want to I gotta keep totally separate. Robot or something? Yeah. Do you wanna keep these completely separate, or eventually, is it gonna Like, well, maybe this could be easier or better with,

Preparing In a job change as well, and we agreed to do this together.

be able to earn enough money so our 2 families can live from it. And that's actually our goal now vegetable growing and farming

It includes a shop as well, like a farm store.

don't wanna do this nothing Yeah. So 2 and a half industry,

until I'm retiring.

I Realized, well, something has to change. And,

I realized later on, Like, 5 years ago that I So when the web days. Awesome again. Yeah. Yeah. Right. And there were so many things to do, and you could really

So,