Gitpod, iPad Coding, Web3, WTF NFT

2 of the devs who work on Gitpod.

It's been all over the place. Love it.

it. Leading up to this podcast, we've been talking about living in a van and, We'll we'll talk about what that is in in just a second.

stealing NFTs. So Hey. Go ahead.

Welcome to Syntax. This is the podcast with the tastiest web development treats out there. Today, we've got another really exciting episode for you today. We've got, Oh, zom this is it. This is like, this is web 1 point o. What is it? Say. I feel like I am to get on a Chromebook. Can I code on that thing? Right? So I think you reach out and say, hey. Yeah. I literally have a YouTube video on that. You wanna Talk a little bit about that. Yeah. I I think so the whole point of Gitpod is to allow,

coding inside your browser, coding on a mobile device, as well as just the 3 minutes,

The status page was hosted off we used to have a process of updating it from Gitpod, and Gitpod itself was down. So,

Nice.

it. How you share your workspace, you can just do so with a, with their Gitpod workspace, which is the, developer environment in on their browser. So I they sent me a link.

The easiest one, of course, is a Zoom screen. You could, like if you're a terminal person, you can use Teammates, the value.

So there's none of this, like, pulling down this experimental branch and then hosing my local computer.

say you're on, like, an index dot a HTML file or something. And Yeah. You you see Wes, like, typing hello world. You you can actually see that in in real time. Cool. Yeah. So, yeah, you get that that Google Docs type of, a flow. Yeah. Yeah. Neat. Exactly.

So

what do you offer as a way for people to collaborate on a code base

I remember a time when I I first joined a long time ago, and we had a scenario where we couldn't update the status page because Second thing is if you see an extension that's not there, if you had to open VSX on on GitHub,

it then allows,

What language is Gitpod built in then? I'm just Trying to see. I know he's open source. I bet I could even just look at it. Yeah. We use, TypeScript

and, Golang is our primary Wow. Core core tech. Okay. Seems to be a very common,

Take it away, Jeff.

on the same workspace.

and I don't recognize the company, like, when I first grown from a maturity basis.

Although it sounds like a great idea,

that's not something that we support.

it then opens up that URL so that anyone with that URL can then open up your workspace. And now Person

Like, still very early we're gonna see a place where

early stage company. We're growing. We're hiring. Gitpod.io/careers.

Yeah. This is the sort of things I've been trying to do, like just opening up a Google Meet

or editing code or whatever it is on

a a a the the site running in a different environment there? We're not working on the same Environment we're working in separate environments

I hop between reviewing coworkers' work, and I just click a link, and we have the typical problems with bootstrapping. Right? So we we don't break Gitpod,

have a Slack room, or is it is it Is that something Gitpod does not care about whatsoever, and it's just, like, however you manage your own communication, you do it?

it's it's a lovely experience. Like, we when we We did, like I've I've I mean, now at Gitpod,

Via language, essentially. Like, how how if if Wes and I are working in the same environment, how do we talk to each Do we have to fire open a Zoom meeting to to chat with each other?

If you're doing anything,

Mhmm. Then,

2 with that URL,

My mind's kind of racing about, like, what kind of different different tools you can use. So

And

Yeah. There was a, actually, it's a and and I think that's a cool thing about the collaboration tools Because, honestly, I don't need my text editor to be handling my audio or anything like that. You know, I'm I'm perfectly capable of having other other means of doing that.

of the same thing and he were to fire this up, Would it give him a slightly different URL that's like how how very scary it is to not know anyone's identity

Everything's all contained.

within the collaboration tools, here's a here's an actual question. Within the collaboration tools,

In terms of like communication, And

I don't know if you've seen this before because it's it's it. New. I just saw it on Twitter the other day, and it's basically their whole premise is like the open office Nice. Done in a way. So it's like, How how how can you have, like, a an open office type of deal or an open workflow for everyone to chat with each other in a remote workspace? But Sweet Bobby

So that's that's pretty exciting.

stack that has

uptime and service availability. To use the angle grinder to get into the door?

those ways you would be able to do the opposite of that and have you both be pairing on 1 code base? that we get okay. So that's really least 2 separate. Yeah. Exactly. Separate environments.

like, any of the usual things and solutions because, essentially, it's just, like, your computer in a Docker container. And it. Just to be clear, a Docker container is just a transport device.

Keep an eye on there for new features coming down the pipeline.

like, is I could be on the sketchiest Internet possible,

Let's take a break for another sponsor, is, We can use Linode.

I can see the exact state of their software development environment, and I have access And it's pre all the MPM dependencies are down. Everything's precompiled, ready to go.

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it. Straight after that incident, we yeeted that that problem way out of existence, and we made hosting the status page someone else's problem.

Some more questions now. Scott, you wanna do LogRocket? we've had a, I don't know, 3 or 4 guests in the past year, and they're all like, yeah. We're using Golang. It. We're using Golang, and we're using TypeScript.

and then we'll get into a The fit is awesome. The wear is awesome. Like,

Almost

Yes. Absolutely. One workspace. Yeah. One workspace environment. Exactly.

that's not, enjoyed learning about Gitpod and want to learn more, we have a Gitpod in on the bottom to say, yeah. I want to share this URL with Someone, then you can,

Yeah. Yeah. Is the site down? I don't know. Check the status page. Us. Is this data's page down?

I I don't need scented because I'm normally near a fire And that's its own form of centering. It's nice.

Yeah. Okay. So you have the possibility of everyone having their own or multiples into

Do not host your own status page. Please don't. Yeah. It's it's a bad idea. It's amazing how many people do that.

Www.gitpod.0/roadmap.

Right? And,

Yeah. I so how you,

with myself and sending it to the Slack and hoping someone joins. But yeah. Okay. That's cool.

centered not having to worry about your computer being a a total beast, which, like, let's face it.

1 question I had, and I think I might know the answer to this, is, CS. Do the developers of Gitpod use Gitpod, entertainment center in the car, but also just, like, for sunglasses as well. And, Like, years ago, my dad had a really good one that would just get the your glasses like 4 k. It was amazing. Yeah. And I've I could never find a good enough one. And Finally, I tried these the one that are called the whoosh cloths,

dot app.

There's an app I recently saw that I'm I'm just gonna throw out there that might be a good companion app,

I feel like that's a feature request. That sounds amazing. Doesn't it, Jeff? Like having some way to talk to each other in that one workspace,

you can share it on so once you get on your when you open up a workspace, it. You have a URL,

If you're running your own status company,

but currently

They're

the idea of, like, Collab tools, very interesting, very compelling, Sick pick.

It's That's awesome. We're right now, we're looking at building really good engineering primitives that compose well.

Like, it's

And our I noticed there were some, like, pair programming features, and then that that And

can then start editing files,

that you can you can share. And if you, like, click,

So, yeah, Gitpod builds Gitpod with Gitpod.

multiple workspaces. That seems like a lot of flexibility for this type of thing.

If Wes was my team member working on his code base

almost under a year here,

The Gitpod is you click on the link to review a pull request, and then you just and you do your work, and then you close the browser tab or you close the session, and then you open a new workspace. It. So it's like a task based.

like, Versus Code themselves

So the idea there is that you click on a link to review the work, and it's pre compiled and pre ready to go. And then you just hop to context. There's no bringing code locally or updating your local state. It's all sandboxed on a per context basis. Wow. That's really cool.

you are running a virtual machine here. CS. The UI is the browser, and then the the computer part is, for a while

Man. So you guys have Versus Code running in the browser,

which

pod. Like, Gitpod is actually a Kubernetes

because, like, obviously, Versus Code is is written in electrons, written in written in web tech, but, in this whole web three idea of, like, Like, I I always think like, oh, yeah. You could lots of different crypto myself, and I'm holding it just because, like, what what if? You know? What if? Yeah. I also have been accepting crypto since 2012,

So you provide us a Docker, Dockerfile,

hasn't even implemented

as much as you have. Like you by looking at the website you have, all the extensions are working,

and we call them, ghost or pre warmed workspaces. So that way, when you click a link, It changes the owner. We run our own custom schedule in the background for Kubernetes. So you click that link, and then the workspace just starts up. And there's some actually cool things, especially when you get out of the web dev scenarios, there's a published extensions repository,

where you can actually pre build the environment. Like, so if you got, like, a rust project, that's it's

with that with that Docker with that Dockerfile. So we a Pre start up a workspace

We're talking about scenarios where it's, like, pre compiled. All the independent dependencies are down. And so if you're hopping between a pull request so the typical workflow typically,

and we will schedule a workspace Oh, no yammer. Yeah. No yamil.com.

it. How it works is Gitpod is a play on the words, Because,

Can you this is a question we get all the time on the podcast, and neither Scott nor I are, I'll let you guys introduce yourselves and say your last names so I won't, Emmet is built in. I'm trying to think of, like, what are the other

I clicked that link, and I helped them debug

and without, without without any ownership, it. Like, the cost of gases in Gueye has gone up. Mhmm. But it was calculated So if this becomes does become a thing, I'm g huntley dot

a the issue from my phone. Oh, man. So, so this is my phone. This is a podcast. You can't see it, but I have a, a iPhone 13,

and I just had it on my phone. I had it on landscape mode. I had Safari open, and I was just helping them on my phone. Oh, man. This is Yeah. Lowers your mind.

is the Docker container? Yeah. So,

And then if you wanna join the community, you buy the token. Then from that point forward, everyone is essentially a founder in the community, is a founder.

I think it's very important to reserve your identity.

It it's a really hard there's a lot of money in this space.

such as, like, being able to see that you go to this gas station every day, And everyone in the world can read that. Like, that is completely the the company is growing, and it's changing, and it's getting so much better. Like, I think it. Looking at, like, tea, And they're now just speaking is a huge thing. It. There's there are many options.

Everyone they try and speak with, they hold a large amount of crypto offerings, and

So, like, in the Kubernetes space, you're a runtime engineer or you you like Golang, TypeScript, and all those fun things. We hire it. Anywhere, like I mean, anywhere. I'm normally in a state forest somewhere

The communities are different.

Yeah. What happens when the entire world can read what you're doing? It's not just Facebook.

You you issue, say, tokens.

who are neutral.

So there's Yeah. There's some things that need solving.

The community needs to regulate itself before it gets regulated. I had government regulators contact me when they seen the NFT bait. They can't find people

The the pros the pros and, again, everybody's

I I you know, you had to invoice me for some money, extra your money now so that you could invoice me for the work that we did on syntax.

of both sides attacking each other. Try and find center and and common ground And figure out what this is. Hey, Wes. Let's say you got wrapped up in a crypto scam, and then I need, So Oh, okay. Think about doing software development essentially via So yes.

Whereas what we're pushing out on blockchain is, like, essentially, everything is open. Like, everyone can see that you if if we reach the utopia of, like, All transactions are on the blockchain, then all of a sudden, what happens when you get topics Gitpod itself is open source. We're an open source product very similar to GitLab.

Just outright kind of scammy or kind of obviously like MLME kind of that same sort of I mean, we just watched that Lularoe documentary that was it. Very very similar vibes to some crypto scams that you see, so yeah. Yeah. So,

speaking with the editors of The Verge, and they were making the analogy that it's kinda like a homeowners association from that point forward. Like, the it. Dynamics, the community changes. Yeah. Everyone's financially incentivized to maximize, There's a disconnect. A lot of people buying the NFTs, think they're buying the art, but really, they're all they're buying is the image SRC equals, and that could be a picture of a rug.

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And, You could run it on Linode. Actually,

I'm not saying there's no utility. I, myself, I went out it. And grabbed a ENS domain.

They're using a different identity for different contexts.

trying to get you in so that they can cash out on it. That's at least my Viewpoint of it. And I'm sure I I hate I hate talking about crypto and anything like that because all of the the terminal works, and I assume that's part of the Docker container is that

just angry about it either way, and that does it makes it hard to get to the The real picture of, like, what is the actual situation like you were saying, Wes. You're not gonna you're not gonna miss it. And so many of those approaches can feel

they're seeing some really brazen and your office is wherever there's a good view and there's good vibes.

and it's something people might wanna consider. That's the first thing in utility I've seen is, owning your own energy online on the blockchain.

scamming happening on Twitter spaces within the NFT space. So it's either they start regulating their community or they will get regulated. Regulators are looking. To that, Team collaboration

That's cool. I I I think I kinda feel the same way as well is that

something I find fascinating in this space Is, if you look at how the younger generations are using social media and using their devices, they're very compartmentalized.

I am not against it. A lot of it seems silly, and I don't understand a lot of it, but it. I also am sort of just sitting and watching. And what I don't like about it is that there's a lot of people have urgency to not miss it. It. And, like, if this is gonna be the next big thing for web development and applications, then it's not gonna be something that we're gonna miss. It's gonna be this well well established thing that we can all go ahead and use. And I think the people that are have urgency are

different to how the generations are using technology, and we're talking about Yeah. I don't even wanna use Facebook because my uncle's on it. It.

It could be, but there are issues. Because, Yeah.

I I've gone through the early Internet days. I see a lot of things that are very interesting.

in a cloud environment somewhere, or is that running in browser, so to say? Yeah. So, Gitpod is essentially a developer a developer environment in the cloud.

the NFT Bay launched, And I just hacked together on an iPad, There's like 6 Internet connections and a green screen on wheels. It's pretty cool.

I went to reinstall my computer,

you're also,

but, like, I I don't really have the resources. I'm like, well, you contact it. Me, I'm I'm gonna hook you up with a couple months of Gitpod. From that point forward, there's no excuse. And then I hooked him up with with a coworker,

45 days,

mobile app. So we're for we're currently going for the approval process right now for an Apple developer account,

And myself, I'm working on a,

just like standard industry standard Dockerfile, and we'll host and run it. And from that point forward, we provide a default experience of Versus Code.

iPad, and all the rest. There are there are some things that are, like like because this is so

and it's just a Docker container in the cloud And work from anywhere. Wow. Yeah. So your your your own machine isn't going to be taxed with

He goes like, I'm getting into software development. I wanna be a software developer,

because I am full time on an iPad.

And previously, it wasn't possible,

Right? But at the same time, this is so new

native app, things like topics of, SSH

So provide us a Dockerfile,

and things are moving so fast. It's just it's it's just amazing what's coming down. Yeah. And I think it's also worth bearing in mind just Because we're throwing stories out there. The other day, I had to go to London,

MacBook Pro. It's like It's it's not like, it's not like like a van down by the river. No. I'm talking about, like

There's some stuff coming down the pipeline right now in a private beta for JetBrains.

together, like, some programming resources that aren't in English. And, like, it's like so it's absolutely no excuse. Like, go change your life. Like, there's the barrier for entry.

Bring whatever tools you like, I only in I ended up cashing out with $1,000 because I had to pay $300 to accept the offer to buy for 1300

You don't need to get yourself a, like, a $3,000

Like, there are sometimes there is some things that aren't so great.

and I bricked it. Yeah. And I had no choice. It. So right now, it's now working.

so cutting edge.

Yeah. For the for the last it. For the last It's there. There's I well, like, out of all the ID tooling, JetBrains made Announcements today, like Mhmm. I think it's, like, 78%

Safari extensions coming out the pipeline, minted onto the blockchain, or you you run workshops? like, going for a walk or a trail and you have a laptop and you you can now work remotely, get yourself some USB battery packs, get yourself a Helenox chair, get yourself sunshade,

Modern web development does kind of require it. A certain spec level of computer that is definitely not accessible to everyone. Well, I'll give you a good example.

Chromebook,

and we have

again, like boot camps.

MacBook Pro or whatever it is. And we have quite a few, experienced,

You're you're doing fine. Like, but because, essentially, I just need as much bandwidth as SSH.

We've seen,

devs.

CSUN. Oh, we got contacts there. Oh, yeah. You know? Sweet.

from that group, Jeff? I feel like I went. All developers have used Gitpod at some point.

I think Jeff can also jump in. It. I think Jeff can also jump in because I I started, like, disclaimer, like, 4, 5 months ago. So I didn't see it from the, like, very beginning. It. But from the last few months of, of me, like,

Gitpod is open source For open source maintainers, Helinox do these it. Hiking chairs. They're super lightweight,

all sorts with Gitpod. And I think that's the beauty of it. We have like it. So we have a Discord community, and we have a list of all of these, like, different languages that people can then join the channels and discuss how they Set up the, like, developer environment on Gitpod for that specific language.

Actually,

And so they're like, yeah. We we want Gitpod. We got a solution for the rest of the company that's Citrix, But for our software developers, this Gitpod. Interesting. I have a lot of questions about your your team stuff because I I know we got into a little bit about that briefly.

all thin client scenarios.

pick up the phone. I'll probably be calling you Yeah. Gitpod builds Gitpod with Gitpod. Yes. So if we break Gitpod

jump on board too.

We're seeing a lot of interest in enterprise. People are getting sick of Citrix VDI type things.

who do you see is the,

Do you see, like, a lot of boot camp students, or do you see a lot of, like, YouTube tutorial takers, or microfiber cloth for especially, like, For your phone and for the kids' iPads and and for the, is impressive,

developing Citrix,

how they can leverage Gitpod for their sort of education.

We have, students,

I've seen people use

great technology. It's designed to make sysadmins happy.

onboarding open source contributors is really hard, typically.

I I would say I I I guess I can, like, say this as well, but,

quite a few teams like Use and adopt Gitpod as well.

yeah, I've seen some boot camp grads,

And they can't install Docker.

Docker,

So, yeah, we're seeing a lot of interest in open source and open source communities because,

self hosted.

US It's really complicated.

Because you could use Gitpod for we have a SaaS offering

fund to support open source maintainers.

We've seen some more enterprisey,

some people who just started learning how to code,

We have got some really cool things going on. Like, we, like, I started a program for the Gitpod Sustainability If we if we we're honest about VDI. VDI was to spark joy for sysadmins.

is there a specific, like, a type of developer you see gravitating, even, like, language specific? Oh, that's a really good question.

More of the like Kubernetes,

So we're seeing a lot of interest in the open source communities.

When you have been able to say, take the contributing dot MD and just reduce it down to just it. Click on this button. Yeah. You're able to do contribution a lot more.

remote desktop, when you form a community in the web three space, it brings out the worst people on Twitter that have opinions, and I I just get slammed at the time. You can see my DM inbox. You should see my inbox. It is it is, is a dumpster fire right now. Yeah. It's divisive on both ends.

But also

We're an open call product. You can run it on your own infrastructure.

for everyone else, it's 50 hours a month for free.

like, the early users or the heavy users of Gitpod right now. Like, I'm I'm curious.

And, honestly, it it ranges from front end stuff,

taking care of the community, we've seen all sorts of developers.

It. Oh, I like that. This matter topicly.

in Slack. So if Wes opens that up, he's seeing my development

We also have like, more experienced developers too. So people who have, like, years of experience who are sort of the I don't want I guess you could call them like forward thinkers. The people who are like, oh, this is this is a thing that I can I can just code from it? A very thin client. I don't need a super high spec,

But Oh, man. Yeah. I mean, like, no axe there are no admin access to your computer and all that stuff. So

In terms of like language,

Citrix and all the rest, primitives. So

Virtual desktop infrastructure.

So, yeah, that's been interesting. Mostly from, the finance and banking world, which is, Again, very interesting to to see. But, yeah, any any did I miss anyone like, a long think about this. Like, What is the thing I've been talking to everybody I know about?

and, you know, asking

Gitpod is about making all the developers it. You let you get full control of your local environment. So we're seeing a lot of people where they've got, like like, tens of thousands of software developers

CS. Teams

from various different, like, educational,

A lot of people do What is VDI? You can do anything at zombo.com.

So

yeah. It's it's a it's a vast Majority of just different people. Oh, also I forgot to mention teams. We've also seen

So it seems like there's a bunch of, like, team collaboration tools. And so I just sent Wes. So I fired up the link that I did, And I I send Wes a a URL,

a long string of link. I send that to Wes. That's that's my development environment.

people are willing to put up with this pain and, like, putting out we're, like, passing that you speak, stick around the workshop that's that's dodgy.

it. You'll find a blog post, and it essentially explains, like, people should be able to learn anywhere from any device. Like, they it. They should be able to work up turn up to your workshop on an iPad the max I, like, I've always heard nothing.

We also have a, newsletter called DevEx Digest. So you can subscribe to that, CS. On gitpod dot io, sort of things as well.

Yeah. If you're doing anything

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Awesome. Cool. Well, thank you for so much for coming on, especially for staying up so late to talk to us.

or a Chromebook, what else have you. So it's it's a personal tale. That blog post There you'll find as a personal tale when I was delivering a workshop,

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I'm sure you're ready for bed now, But I appreciate you coming Oh my gosh.

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and we'll see what we can do to make easier for you people to learn Gitpod.

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A rapidly changing place. And in a couple years,

And also, So

and people turned up with a Chromebook, and they had to install an operating system, and now they're doing a workshop on operating system.

and, you know, us. Share your learnings on using Gitpod or getting set up with Gitpod and moving your local dev environment

Like, The only reason they're willing to do this is because they wanna learn. Right? But that's they don't need to do that. Like, we can actually reduce workshops down into, like, here's the link. Start learning.

diving into the ins and outs of developer experience, What it is and why it's important.

my new developer No. It's okay. That's good. It was clear. I think, yeah, correct me if I'm wrong here, Jeff, but I think

If you wanna read about, like, a really awesome Internet connection, how it. All of that all those Internet links all configured

Awesome.

to do with education,

please so I wouldn't be surprised if, our road map is open.

See you. Thank you. Peace. Been wholesome. Peace. Peace.

and then just, like, he's just a thin client. Sick.

interest towards learning how to code. And I've shown him Gitpod, and I've said, you can literally code from your iPad. You you don't need a computer. You don't need to ask, like, mom and dad for, a Like, a MacBook or a a whatever it is. You can just code from your iPad, and Gitpod

Described it the other day as a computer

And he's recently you know,

browser.

Are are the if you're running, like, in an environment, is that running

you know, kids these days with their Ipads because my younger brother has an iPad. He's always had an iPad since he was, like, five.

expressed, like,

in every

And genuinely,

just lets that happen. You all you need is a browser. So so, So, yes, really exciting where we're heading. Yeah. And and it's really interesting too because what the the tools, they they all run-in browser or

that is it. I think Jeff,

sure. So I did it, and it was really simple. I just had to, like, claim claim my name space, and and I I don't have See it. I publish it every time I don't think,

could be better

1, if you're producing,

Happy to run you through how to publish there. It's all about an open ecosystem for Versus Code. Totally.

from marketplace. Yeah. So you would have to do that.

So pretty simple thing. If anyone does have a theme, make sure you push it because

extension

is not my development environment anymore. It's the Versus code that's in the browser. Do you have any, like

Now I understand what that is for.

And see if

big Oh, no. I I use some some boutique extensions here. I'm gonna have to it. Just go about

is not something I've heard of before today. I know, Wes, you have, but I think a lot of people would probably be, excited to see that this exists, and yeah. Cool. You know, what else is hosted in the cloud, Wes? I do. What is this, Scott?

to it. It was pretty simple to do.

So if you're using things like Versus CX podium, which is a Visual Studio Code, but open source, you can't actually connect to the marketplace.

on Gitpod.

So when you use Versus Codeum, which is the open source build as a visual it. Your code or using new any of the these cloud offerings that come into market. They're actually using OpenBS code server. So, our partnerships. So, Leonode,

The full selection here. But, yeah, the environment looks great, and it was really easy to get up and running just as we were talking here.

And I have my own Versus code in the browser here, and that that took just a a couple of clicks to get that going. Right? Just a couple of clicks had to change the deploy command. But what I see instantly is that, like,

marketplace, which is like a like, description of what Gitpod is and what it allows, people to to get on. And I I like how you mentioned, experience,

it.

using Gitpod and you want to,

between the marketplace. So you can download files between market places and sync files, but you can't direct connect, Visual Studio and non studio Visual Studio products to the marketplace. Interesting. Yeah. I I had to submit my own and they think that they're, like, it. Buying the art, but the art's on on the blockchain. In 2016, Alright. So, shameless plugs. Alright. So if you're potentially in DevRel, it was calculated and, like, people like, it. I'm a Vim user. People like Emax, etcetera.

Yeah. And and we'll we'll link, we'll link that in the show notes too just so everyone can see it, because this honestly

what it was.

Yeah. Yeah. So you'd have to find your, like, your themes, your extensions that you have locally

is coming at this and saying, like, I'm on an iPad now, and I I'd really like to have a lot of my tools and extensions and whatever. Is there, like, a quick Wait to get up and running with normal Versus code. Is it just like the straight up Versus code settings sync stuff that you have before? Like, is it is it full on Versus code environment that you can utilize the same way as your desktop and and and sync your settings and get all everything, themes, and everything up and running.

A vendor neutral version of Versus Code's

Yeah. I had to submit my theme to that.

better known amongst authors because that'd be that'd be really great to have,

Error lens is one that I use. Let's let's see if this one's available.

I I I see that I can open this up in my local Versus code. But, like, let's say I I was a developer who,

so When you're a new developer and I still was working as I was out and about. And it. Someone pinged me from our community asking for some help with their workspace,

you will see,

and there's a MPX script. You just put in the the name of the extension, and it'll Send a pull request, and it'll we've got an automatic script that synchronizes

Repo to that. And I at the time, I didn't understand

Thank you. Some back story. So, Gitpod is one of the creators of OpenVSX.

add all of your themes and extensions,

you actually have to install them again, Yeah. I wish I did. But, yeah, I didn't. That's my only regret. Well, yeah. I mean, Jeff, you get that all the time. Well, our guest was from Sunderland.

we we use, the OpenVSX of England, and it's super, super cold here at this it. Time of year. And I recently discovered the heat tech collection.

Okay. Let's get it back to, Gitpod here. So I I just fired up a a Gitpod instance of my own personal website just Just to give it a try, which is actually, I don't know if it's or or whichever version of this thing it is, whatever branch I just loaded up, but it It fired up really, really quickly, and now I have my own sort of sandbox URL that I can have for development.

I just had a bunch of people being like, hey, like, can you please get Cobalt 2 on this open VSX. I'm like,

people may not know that the Versus Code marketplace is proprietary.

ESLint,

That was a meandering question. Sorry.

and service.

we have it on the marketplace and then install it from there. Yeah. Okay. So so then and then the the authors would have to submit to that As well, I think I think maybe that's something that,

Back before Gitpod was Gitpod, there was a company called Typefox.

anywhere near being able to answer it is, what is Kubernetes.

But in our case, the community is the perfect case for we need a you're speaking with the person who's, looking at rolling out for marketing and

Right? You you don't need Kubernetes. You can do a lot of really cool things. We it. We actually know hardware these days.

Are we is that a genuine question? Are we Yeah. Well, like like, I I kinda know what it is. Yeah. We know what it is. But, like, for people people on the podcast, they they're like, can you do a a podcast on what Kubernetes is and and everything? And it's like, it. Well, Scott and I, like like, I honestly don't even use Docker all that much, let alone,

Abstraction you use for software development and exposes primitives such as, like, on Twitter if you got any Any issues, concerns, Helenox chairs have sunshade, so you don't get reflection.

A lot of people do not need to use Kubernetes.

what Kubernetes does. So Are either of you able to take a stab at explaining, like, what it is and and why someone might need it? I know it's not part of Gitpod, but I'd now that you're talking about it That that's Yeah. Go on, Jeff. Yeah. You I was gonna say you probably, can explain it a bit better than me because I'm still confused by how

solution that schedules work CS spaces, and you do your development in the workspace. So it it's it's good for building a platform. So for people like us, it's amazing. For you, you might not need it. Thank you for that.

is, it's a a platform. It's actually you could actually see it as an operating system that lifts the typical

it. Using a static HTML web page, which is just copy and paste essentially in, like, in notepad.

all the different things, it. And I work in the space, so, yeah, go ahead. 1st up, if you have to know about Kubernetes and you're using Gitpod, then we're failed. This is all hidden from you.

Is it time to do shameless plugs? I would are you also speaking to the person of no yammer.com?

orchestration and scheduling that your services are deployed and Exposes monitoring endpoints.

this is 2016. Things have changed now. There's different block sizes, a different a different,

work like that. You know? The whole thing is fascinating.

and did this hilarious I read I read the Readme which is that, like, NFTs are just hosted on Google Drive which is a web 2. So It. Some guy scraped all of the NFTs and put them up for free,

distribute or whatever. I I think there's some interesting

and people are saying that the NFT and the art the art is on the blockchain.

any good

What we see right now is a hack. So No. We don't have to do the face y approach. That was very fun, by the way.

What did you do with the NFTs? trust.

Immutable JSON, like, the image SRC that points to a different web host.

I actually created NFT Bay as as huge joke,

it's a financial stake or a book it to sell you or is it TikTok bro or something like that. And I just haven't haven't been able to find somebody who doesn't, like, it. Feel slimy to to talk to.

that's I I because I have a Google Docs. Photo bucket all over again. Oh, yeah. This is

Over to a, like, a web host. And at times, it's 4 mod cons, everything you need to be productive remotely, but I find myself just getting a

Yeah. A literal rug pull. So, I I thought it was really funny because

I hold no crypto offerings,

essentially a JSON contract Oh. So it's it's Oh, yeah. So Yeah.

It's a schema, which is essentially image SRC.

People are selling

that it was it'd be $76,000

per gigabyte stored in blockchain if you were to it. Store a JPEG,

I'm still very skeptical sitting on the sidelines of it. Like, do you think that if there is any

people are selling computer programs, the NFTs, So what it is

like a gigabyte on the blockchain.

It's just a schema. The link? On the topic of neutrality,

interesting aspects about, like, like, if you produce some art and let's say this art was actually on the block Then you could earn something every single time it was resold until infinity, but you're getting you're you're not actually

The contract if you imagine, like, a JSON blog field and there's a SRC field, and the s s the SRC field, that's, like, immutable on the blockchain, but it links

that that image that somebody made that says you wouldn't steal or you wouldn't right click a photo site. Right? So I ran the development site. It gave me a link that's,

It's a hack.

anything about NFTs is that,

but people are, like, They sell the NFT, and then they switch it out to, like, pictures of rugs, and they call it a rug pull.

and until recently,

what is web 3 and and, like, what did it would be perfect.

host a website on the blockchain and your style dot CSS would be in the blockchain. Your index dot HTML would be immutable and then You just deploy a new version, and no one could ever take it down and something like that. But, like, do you

or Google, Google Docs Or, like, some web 2 API service, which will go offline. So people are buying these JSON blobs, Like, you like, Pauline, what have you done recently? Like, you just like, you have a device, and you can work from anywhere. What have you done? Yeah. Like no. Absolutely. I think So like I mentioned, I was in London the other day, and I had to work, server,

CS. The and then some peep it's wild. People are, like, up because, like, it's immutable in the blockchain. The image SRC is

My favorite,

value to this type of thing. I don't know.

It. It's not.

And then, like, I the other day, a couple days ago, I saw this thing. It blew up on Hacker News.

you know, commercially my development environment

given all that,

You wouldn't right click a photo and save as. You wouldn't create a 20 terabyte

because I wanted to point out that, essentially,

Or, you know, like, you wouldn't download a car, the you wouldn't steal this.

And then they're not even buying the licensing for this thing, so they're not buying the ownership or licensing to,

you're you damn it. The dart itself isn't on the blockchain just because it doesn't for this type of thing, it's called

I know that's a big question, but, like, what the heck is going on? That's my Let's talk about impartiality.

Oh my gosh. A literal rug pull. Yeah.

or to right click save as, would you? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Because it's funny. What what you may have done.

Question I have is do you think that there is any So we got lots of kinda interesting questions for them revolving around,

Are you the type of person who just loves

actually,

There's, like, 4. Today, I finished painting the back wall as a green screen, so it's a production studio on wheels.

and just sitting down there with a camping chair, I was like, yep, couple USB c battery packs, tether to the Internet.

driving somewhere and you can put your head down and keep coding? So, unfortunately, because it's a podcast,

anyone who has a laptop, society is kinda now divided into, does not come with an escape key with an iPad.

6 Internet connections, soon 7 when Starlink arrives.

on the way from,

from the north of England, so we were looking at a map for quite a while. Yeah.

that is my monitor that's about to go onto the van. It's a 48 inch TV.

Something fascinating about Internet

Hold on. Let's see where that oh, yeah. That is that's even more north than me, and I'm from Canada. Oh, wow. Oh, man. That yeah. He, he said he lived in a pretty,

as Like, I noted the Internet There are some NFTs where the art is on the blockchain, but that that it. It's super rare. Like, most things are pointing to either something on Arweave or IPFS find me, say hello. It. I wanna catch up for beers just like this. The podcast's super chill, I'm here learning and being interested in being in trying to learn. Mhmm.

And then so I can be on Sketchy local I created that in a, well, after a few beers, I got, yeah, I was doing some Kubernetes work. That probably sum her up, some of my feelings in it.

And I was always just like, yeah. It would be so much better if I could just run this whole laptop

using Git pods, coding Wow.

when doing that type of thing because sometimes I think, like, yeah, that'd be nice. But then I try to, like, go to a coffee shop and work and I'm I'm not as productive as if I'm sitting at my Station.

remotely,

Oh, he said it's it. It's just a it's just like an hour outside of Newcastle.

some sorta endgame.

And and yeah. So I was in a car for, like, I think it was, like, 4, 5 hours, developers from, like, From anywhere, really, to get started with coding, all you really need is a browser.

People can't see this, but, Wes, and I actually had people contact me about that. And there was some person from Brazil.

for a bit and guy that's into denim. And I just like, They have, like, salvaged denim that's, like, probably some of the cheapest salvaged denim you can buy. And I I was, like, alright. I'll try a pair. And

It. So you are, like, totally remote. Usually, you are living out of a van and and being a coder. That's the dream.

pretty industrial city, which is Yeah. Yeah. He was on specifically talking about JavaScript in industry.

Many sketchy LTE connections that I'm trying to make work from rural area.

It.

But CS If you go to the iOS settings, you can actually remap caps log to escape. And then you're home free. Pro tip. A Pro tip. Pro tip. That's a good pro tip. There you go. Love it. You can you can plug any keyboard in. So it's it's an iPad. Any keyboard can go in. Even your old mechanical keyboard. And so do you have, like, a desk in your in your camper? Like, how do you stay productive We,

from from there. And I was actually working

that's interesting. Yeah. That that's what we we did an entire episode on poor internet because I had been working from my cottage where I had like you many Let's move into some sick pics. You guy did you guys come ready with any sick pics for us? Oh, yes.

I'm connecting to a remote environment, and I've got I'm in the Google data center, and then I have a gigabit.

Talk about the random stuff that popped up before the show.

So, So I've been dogfooding this in the last 45 days, and I realized, yeah, we we need a mobile app. Nice. We need a Like, Like, if we're honest to you, people

like, I've got myself a a camping chair, and it's got a sunshade and everything. And then it's just, like, it. Finding somewhere beautiful Error lens. Well, that's the thing. If, if you see something's missing, well, just speak with us. Right?

can you do a a podcast on web 3? And, like, Scott and I, we kinda we know a little bit here and there, and we've been sort of following it. But it it seems like every single person that, like, we could possibly talk to it. About what web 3 is has some sorta

like, 5 g.

and, and it actually is really good. Like, it. If I I can be on Internet that's so sketchy that I would not be route be able to run NPM install, camping.

there's, like, a kilowatt van. Us. Yeah. There's a kilowatt of solar on the roof. There's, air conditioning.

just working

inside the car

And I'm just traveling around Australia in a van working remotely. And,

Oh, I don't know where that is.

like, it's possible.

like, those who can work remotely and those who cannot.

in the cloud somewhere that has fast Internet, and then I just, Yeah. Just SSH. Just just send me the

us. Using my iPad mini and a keyboard,

So when you joined the call, you were standing in front of a bunch of SAWS, and he said, yeah. My van is over there. And that reasonably got West very excited because standing in front of a bunch of tools in the van yeah.

Mhmm. Mhmm. Yeah. Like like, if you can work remotely, you you should. Like

Alright. So another question

Okay. He's way more north than me. It's colder up there.

us. From London to the north of England in Leeds. Mhmm. People don't know where that is. So, like, us. Up there. Up in the north of Oh, yeah. Area. Yeah. Our last guest was from,

There's,

From just outside of the bits that are changing on the screen instead of the actual

is where I live.

CS Oh, yeah. Or 4 g or whatever enabled. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I wish I did.

us. In a in a in a small car. And I'm sure that's like What were you using for Internet? Were you using, like, an a satellite or, LTE? I I have five g. Yeah. A 5 g. Yeah. On my phone. Yeah. It up. Yep. Yeah. Exactly. Unlimited as well. So it just it just Exactly. A no brainer. It's amazing. I think that's just where we're all, like, Heading towards you know, my only regret is not getting an iPad mini with, That's how you described it or something like that, Which is so which is spot on. I think that is a really good,

we have all the time is can you do a,

Sunderland.

On my iPad mini with a keyboard

I think it could be remote.

And for those listening who don't know what that is, it's essentially like a really

And I've I've never found, like, a really good

I guess if we could do a second sick buck pick, Like, I Really? If you Google Gitpod workshops as code, So we're seeing a lot of issues. On Linode?

creator Amy Kaepernick has done a course on accessibility for everyone here, and it's awesome. Amy is fantastic,

But Oh, okay. That have Maybe I haven't done the TV yet. Handprint. So, I mean, that was, like, a straight up handprint on the TV.

But now I've tried it for over a month. I can say that it actually has kept me warm.

Helenox chairs. Awesome. A lightweight.

this brand called Uniqlo, if you've heard of it. Yes. It. I love you, UK.

Yeah. Take it. Yep. Yeah. I mean, the being able to use all and I just took a quick look. All the extensions that I use, Prettier,

A podcast about, like, a,

Terrifying modern modern tech kind of story. You know, like, what kind of catfishing lengths are being done today and and,

We're back in time now. There we go. Or is this is this web 3. We we can't talk about the future without acknowledging where we come from. You can do anything at slongo.com.

Zombo.com.

It. It's $100 for the sunshade. I like I I think that's too much, but it means you because the problem is you normally find something that is good,

This is gonna be a perfect type of soccer chair for me. This is gonna be it. Oh, yeah. Nice little soccer chair. Soccer dad, soccer mom chair. You know, I'll take it. These are nice.

So, I feel like I don't have to use,

in, 1 in the car and 1 with your glass your sunglasses, and you and you're good to go. So check them out. Whoosh gloves. That's, like, 10 times the value of an of an apple cloth, so that's great value. Yeah.

Alright. Oh, yes. Yeah.

Great. Okay. You. So the reason I love I I discovered them recently. The reason I love them is I live in the north,

You guys have any shameless plugs? Yeah. Go for it. Yes. Yeah. So I'm going to shamelessly plug,

I have like, I'm a huge

Yeah. That's a that's a good point.

it. Check it out. Leveluptutorials.com.

Oh, I'm so glad you you've heard of it because I'm not yes. I'm wearing their jeans right now. Oh my god.

It. And if you're, extensions, please consider publishing to OpenVSX

You can learn some JavaScript script, or some CSS, or anything to do with web development. I'm going to shamelessly plug level up tutorials.com.

and they're just tiny little the weave of them, I I don't know what the weave is is called, but they work amazing. And, like, I don't need water or spray or anything. And I just like water for my TV,

We have a new course From a new content,

And, she is from Australia as well. So, those resources of running it or even having to worry Docker, which is like a big thing. And especially like you said, Wes, if if you're talking about kids who may have just a Chromebook or something, what do they call that when you your catfishing. It's like a catfishing thing,

at any time. You know those types of thing unless you're chatting on video like this. So Really good podcast. One of those if you're into true crime style or mystery style podcasts, And that's, like, what this is all about. You just kinda leave it running. You can make yourself available or not. It's almost like audio Discord where you just have it just always available. So it might be a neat thing to check out, for those of you who are looking for this type of thing. Might be a good companion to this type of tool. I need to check this out now. I'm on the I'm I'm on the website. This looks amazing. It. It's pretty cool. Yeah. I just thought yeah.

This is just a gimmick. This is all marketing.

I'll I'll have to try it try it on the TV yet, but, man, they're amazing. And it was, like like, I don't know, 10 or $15 for a pack of 4 is you put 1 in the office, They put 1 Versus code is being used in many different ways, including something like Gitpod. So,

beautiful, but But there's no shade, and then you can't work because it's a reflection.

and it's kind of, you know, one of those mystery True crime kind of things. There's not I don't there's there's nothing really that's emotionally disturbing, but that's it. Sweet Bobby is a story about catfishing, and I found it to be,

Free heat tech. And What? We all yeah. We all got it. Like, it's like we got, like, the long underwear or whatever it is.

And, man, I my wife makes fun of me because she calls me a Cloth enthusiast.

is

recommend. Sick pick. Yeah. That's a good one.

I'm a have to go to a shout out to zombo.com.

It's super long.

Wow. When I first when I first bought when I first bought it, I was like, this you know, being able to talk to each other as you prepare program. But, yeah, we don't have a way to to, like, you know, Yeah. Yeah. Talk to each other, at the same time. But you can see someone like edit,

They look Besides not getting that the kind of access that they would need to access the file system APIs or whatever on a Chromebook,

I just wear HeatTech. I just wear Uniqlo.

that I've been really like. Actually, there's a whole bunch of podcasts that I've been liking

Meanwhile, in sunny Australia, I don't quite have that problem right now. It. My sick pic, and saying you're buying art on the blockchain, but, really, it's a JSON

Tortoise does some decently good podcasts. I've never really heard of them. They're UK based.

nice as a,

Helinox.

A bunch a bunch of people are like, why didn't you it. The Apple Clothos. I didn't buy the Apple Cloth. It came with Oh, you have it? Yeah. I I have the Apple Cloth. I didn't buy it, though. It came with your monitor? Yeah. It came with the monitor. Okay. That you should get. I was like, don't wanna get mugged. Imagine just walking down the street with an apple cloth. This thing is for sure. It's like it's like the weighted blankets of cloths. I I I feel like it. It's just super heavy duty. Oh, what a flex. It's like a $40 cloth. Yeah.

It's the best thing. So, yeah, tote that's my sick pick.

soon to be parent of a child that's gonna be, you know, like a 5 year old who's playing soccer.

And, so we just, like, popped it. We just grabbed it, and, we just wear under our jeans and things like that. It it actually is super warm. It is it is. Highly

It was it has to be,

There's there's one called Sweet Bobby from Tortoise.

stuff is awesome.

like, a sunshade over the top.

I'm I'm trying to just pick a podcast,

like, the heating in my, apartment.

after about, like, I don't know, a year and a half, like, I've got really good fades on them. And the the heat tech my my wife and I were walking downtown Toronto, I don't know, 5 years ago, and they were just giving away

lately, so maybe you'll have to pick a good one here.

Get the chair with the sunshade, and then you can work anywhere with no reflection.

definitely a good one to listen. I'm adding that to my list. Awesome. Adding that to my list. I love true crime. So yeah. Yeah. Definitely in that in that universe. I'm gonna sick pick these Cloths I just got called whoosh. Screen cleaning microfiber.

I really like their stretchy jeans because they look like jeans, but they're stretchy.

It. But here's the thing, Wes. Here's the thing. For me to sell that NFT, I had to pay $300 in transaction fees To get so someone offered me $1300.

But, like, whenever I have to, like, move it, it's slow, there's a lot that I don't get either. So,

we're we're watching the space.

for a lot of my products. And that has I've just been holding on to that.

So Yeah. I made a NFT of the NFT, like, kind of recursive and sold that for $1300.

Yeah. That that's another thing that doesn't make sense to me. Like, I I have, 40 gigs of npm install.

And I had to pay a whole bunch of money. I was like, what? This doesn't and then whenever I talk about it, people are like, well, no. You're doing it wrong, or it's gonna change. And It also feels, like, dangerous because you're just it. Copying and pasting, like, an address and it could arrive or not or it could just disappear forever or who knows? Yeah. I don't know, man. It's, I I get it. I get it. Absolutely. But there's

Next question. I think it's probably for Pauline is I'm curious, like,

So if you have,

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dedicated CPU, high memory GPU. They have Kubernetes. Now that we know what Kubernetes

Alright.

building something in the cloud or otherwise, you're gonna wanna have some sort of visibility into your errors and exceptions, and you're gonna wanna do this with a tool like LogRocket, which gives you actual visibility.

We're talking about next generation tools on this episode. And for me, LogRocket really is one of those tools because it gives you a scrubbable video replay of your errors and exceptions as they happened, let's look at a map here. Yeah. Not yep. Not my not my, best area of knowledge here. It. Well, in yeah. The in Leeds, that's awesome. We got a couple Aussies here. So, yeah,

So thank you to LogRocket for sponsoring. Alright. Let's, let's switch gears,

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Check out the nftbay.org.

With me as always is mister Scott Talinski. But Let me,

let me welcome

where I get

something around how we are talking about coding on the iPad

Yeah. So hi, everyone. I'm Pauline Narvas.

it. We'll butcher them, but thanks so much for coming on. Amazing. Yeah. Hi. Thank you so much for having us on the podcast. I love the energy here Already. Really excited for this episode.

you reached out to us at some point. I forget what it was we were talking about on Twitter,

Cloud Computing and Hosting,

computer, but I only have it. An iPad or $300

Guess, we'll probably get into that a little bit later. But that's just that's just me. I'm normally traveling around Australia in a van.

So, yeah, that's me in a nutshell. Alright. So Hi, everyone. I'm Jeff. I stole all your NFTs.

our community

And how we've I mentioned this a couple of times on on the podcast. So maybe we'll we'll start it off on there, and then, we'll get into what Gitpod actually is. But it. I've been on this sort of, like,

Today, we're sponsored by 3 awesome companies, Linode

but I think it was something

Please, nerds, like, It. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Pro tip, the Magic Keyboard

and also to join Jeff And the rest of the team to tell the whole world about Gitpod and cloud developer environments.

half of it, I see these youngins who only have iPads

Nice. Yeah. Thanks a lot for coming on. So,

JavaScript session replay, and FreshBooks cloud accounting.

But I'm here at one of the engineers at Gitpod.

I work at Gitpod as a community engineer.

and are creating these awesome things. You you see them creating TikToks and all this media stuff, and I think, like, yeah. Like, those those kids will be good coders as well. Yeah. But I don't I don't, like, see the path forward on that. And then I also get emails all the time from people being like, hey, Wes. Must be nice to have a $6,000

questions, or what else have you, and we'd love to help you get up and running with Gitpod.

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